Not a good look. I wonder did he go because this was going to come to light?
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There was a report yesterday that 2 had expressed concern at this. Renault were one, I can’t recall the other at this point.
He's been called names in public and there's a video floating around of one of the incidents.
People in every job from shop assistant to surgeon can get called names at work or in public for whatever reason by people.
It's not right but it's life we don't live in a perfect World.
Most just get on with it and they don't have Ryan's platform to talk about it.
Personally I think the teenager hurt Ryan because in his eye the lad viewed him of The Toyman a few years before.
What you've also to remember is how would Ryan have reacted if anybody got themselves into hot water. In my opinion he'd throw them under the bus.
This is not sone isolated incident. This was a scheme concocted by two parties (one of whom is someone in RTE apparently acting independently of the board, and the other is Tubs and/or is his agent acting on his behalf) to siphon funds to him in a manner to make up for cuts he claimed to take and sought publicity and credit for. And this has been going on for at least half a decade. All of that is factual.
And that I suspect is the tip of the iceberg with likely more damning evidence to appear on the agent’s other clients (given what’s in the papers today).
How much evidence do you need?
note: apologies for the double post, I wanted to quote the list I was replying to for context.
I'm surprised we haven't heard of any big name advertisers pull their custom from RTE until these matters have been resolved.
Surely it's not a good look for some of these financial institutions to be associated with a dishonestly run company
Wow this paints a very damning picture. As tubbers was nobly accepting pay cuts to do his bit for the country, he was getting topped up off the books presumably to keep him sweet. **** hell.
RTE has always been a cesspool of entitlement and sanctimonious finger wagging, abolish it entirely, no one under the age of 70 would really give a ****. The idea that we need a state funded broadcaster to be a paragon of virtue and balance, telling us the correct way to feel outraged about things is a misguided naive nanny state nonsense, especially when it's just a FF and to a lesser extent FG mouthpiece ever since its inception. And doubly so when the correct topic of outrage should be RTE/FF/FG themselves.
But as Ryan has insisted, his sudden decision to step down from the LLS had, of course, absolutely nothing to do with the fact this was going to be exposed.
No siree ...
One major thing that will come out of this is how one specific agent/agency has been controlling the media, including social media, to some degree. Questions are going to be asked as how this came about. To me it’s a speck sinister, tbh.
What makes you so sure it was an Audit issue before 2022. The issue is a report on top 10 earners issued by RTE which is not audit related.
In 2022 RTE made a payment of 150k with no indication yet that it was offset by an invoice. If this contra/clearance account had been cleared, the likelihood of detecting it would be low.
The focus should be on the RTE Finance Department and I suspect someone in there had enough of this or wasn’t prepared to cover it up.
I rate him very low as regards an interviewer and broadcaster, but I am not using that as some stick to beat in with here as regards this affair.
This, to me is a huge over-dramatised affair.
and can we not let the investigation conclude before we start calling for hangings.
RTE must know if there are any.
No doubt they would have informed the public already before it's dragged out of them.
How many other presenters or journalists are on individual contracts in RTE?
In 2009 I moved abroad but I missed home so used to listen to more RTE than I had ever before. Saturday evening I'd watch the Late late, and I'll be honest I do like Pat Kenny though I acknowledge he is hopeless with anything entertainment/celeb/gossip. I'd listen to Morning Ireland going to work, and would tune into Liveline for my sins in the afternoon. Then Ryan took over from Pat on the late late. I lasted about 3 weeks and gave up. I didn't like the new format. I think he's a cringy interviewer. Pat was bad at entertainment stuff but excels at current affairs. Ryan is bad at all of them and seems to ask the same four questions no matter what the topic.
So, Like Butters, this is not a knee jerk reaction from me. Ive never liked the guy.
What's changed this year though that has highlighted the practise? It's obvious RT saw this coming and knew there would be outrage. One wonders why it's been pitted this year above any other.
If they do nothing they will be disbanded. This is public money. There’s a reason people are outraged.
Well if they informed management it was them that created the agreement.
If it's not illegal they've no reason to do any more presumably.
Year --published --actual-----Difference
2017 - €491,677 - €511,677 - +€20,000
2018 - €495,000 - €545,000 - +€50,000
2019 - €495,000 - €545,000 - +€50,000
2020 - €466,250 - €522,500 - +€56,250
2021 - €440,000 - €515,000 - +€75,000
2022 - €440,000 - €515,000 - +€75,000
So his actual pay in 2022 was higher than in 2017. Some pay cut that is!
The greed of it all.
I presume he declared the actual figures to Revenue.
Depends on when his contract is up for renewal. They can just choose not to renew it. Knowing his financial luck, he probably only signed a new contract recently.
That's where he let himself down the most. He knew his published salary was wrong but he never questioned it. Wilfully. He apologised for that but the damage is done.
I cannot see him on the radio again but RTE may need to pay him off.
Dishonest and not telling the truth, but not a liar according to some. 🙄
It's huge money I agree but at least with Pat Kenny at his peak it is a plausible argument that he commanded a big salary because of what he could potentially earn in other markets - eg UK.
Pat Kenny set the bar for the Late Late Show salary and passed the baton to Tubridy.
That's the only reason Tubridy was ever earning 800k a year. There was never any danger of him making it big in the BBC.
In 2019 when the 15% cuts were being pushed on RTE staff, Ryan was only to happy to take one for team:
And as he spoke of the homeless crisis that is gripping Ireland, he said he would accept RTE cost-cutting measures gracefully.
Tubs added: “I’ve taken a pay cut before. I took over 30% the last time and they’ve asked for more again which will bring it up to about 45% or (so) since I took the Late Late Show.
“When it comes to this sort of issue, that’s not something I’ve ever been found wanting in and that continues to be the case, yeah.”
So as well as claiming what a great fellow he was for agreeing to take a pay cut from Kenny's salary, he never actually took the 15% pay cut he told everyone he was so keen to take.
What a gent.
I do think that’s a possibility at this stage, yes. I know they expected some backlash over this but you can tell from the reaction that they’re surprised.
Then how it’s been handled has added to this. First we had NKM and Tubs come out with their two fingered unapologetic “nothing to do with me” messages, then a swift backtrack to #ContriteTubs and sad face “I did a bad thing but it’s really RTE’s fault” apology which also did more harm than good and raises even more questions. Even is his “apology” he refuses to take the blame, shifting it mostly onto RTÉ. He had a chance to save himself with a full apology, take the blame, offer to donate the money to charity etc., but no, “it’s not really my fault, it’s those bad eggs in RTÉ” . I don’t know who is scoring him, but they have judged this VERY badly from a PR perspective.
You have the board running scared and refusing to go to tv or radio, then the Chaireoman neglecting yo mention the DG was suspended and now they wonder why trust is broken.
But there’s an interpersonal issue here too. Ryan will be hated and despised for his underhand behaviour by the rank and file RTÉ staffers, who are the majority of the staff there. I think it will be very difficult for him to swam into Montrose at 8:45 snd leave before 10 news every morning knowing he is so hated.
Audits don't look at every single transaction. Also the junior auditors doing most of the donkey work get paid appalling salaries and are expected to work stupid hours, so aren't exactly 100% focused on the task. And the higher ups are busy maintaining the relationship with the client to protect the hefty fees they charge.
Audits are barely worth the paper they're written on.
He earns more than his brother too and that in itself says it all
Remember the London riots 😂tubs opening line “the revolution is televised “ thinking it clever , then taken off air by the bbc and bollocked 😂😂
Playback did 25 mins on the Ryan story. They were thorough. Worth a listen back.
With respect, I’ve been calling out his behaviour and falseness for years. This is not some knee-jerk reaction.
Balance? Are you really saying his behaviour is defensible?
No, it’s more you being hell-bent on going for the jugular and looking for the worst type of outrage out of all this; and I don’t think it’s at all sincere.
Your not wanting to explore some balance, context and middle-ground is very obvious.
The Santa thing is more of a parents issue and how they bring up their kids , my kid thinks the toy show is **** and tubs is an odd ball
Tubridy talks about a paycut from 2012 to now....as pointed out on other threads by excellent contributers, you must bear in mind the amount of time Tubridy takes off in annual leave every year......
So when he and RTE say he took a "cut"....a concurrent amount of leave was given......
Therefore, the amount he is paid per "working" hour remained the same or even increased.....
He takes months off every year....and he is still being paid now whilst not working!
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