Hopefully a good outcome ahead.
Sub named Titan.
A tether system would have to be extremely well thought out with regards to snagging, the possibility of de-tethering in case of emergency. It really would be very very expensive to have a safer system in place, but really this depth of exploration is not really on.
One thing we must remember too is that in the early days flying was in an experimental stage, and people really did take a chance boarding early aircraft, including the first paying airline passengers. When one thinks of the first ever Aer Lingus route, was done in a De Havilland Dragon biplane with canvassed frame, wicker chairs, and a single pilot. It was a slow beast too, a pair of low powered engines, Dublin to Bristol in sone hours. An absolutely beautiful airplane, I’ve had the pleasure of flying in one in Wales, but to be taking your chances in the vagaries of the poorly forecastable weather back then, and over hills and an angry sea, it was luck that you got to your destination at all. But that was the proud foundation of Aer Lingus.
Tethering of submersibles hasn't really been a thing for many decades - the big step change in these exploration subs was moving from the tethered bathysphere to the independent bathyscaphes in the 1950s.
Tethers themselves bring their own issues. In Robert Ballard's book about the discovery of the titanic, he described how damage to some of the cable armouring caused short circuits. Plus once you get to a life-supporting tether, such as used in a diving bell, the addition of air supply, heating water etc make the tether quite large. Imagine trying to deal with 10 or 20km of this:-
It looks as if the issue is not the absence of a tether but fundamental deficiencies in the design of the vessel in the first place.
No nothing at all but you shouldn't have any expectations at all of anyone bothering about you if you head off on a trip like this.
Lots of activity in the area
Those bacteria will always have good ferritin readings when they get their bloods done!
I'd say the 'Maritime' section on here was never as busy.
You should check out the Ship Porn page.... it's utter filth.
I can't see the images. Everyday's a school day.
Turn off your explicit filter
I am one of these nosey people, I do apologize to the mods and regulars here.
some of the earlier pics in that thread might no longer exist at the links they were originally posted from (but most still do)... you see it a lot in threads that might be very old and URL's were the best way to post pictures..
Do we know for sure it wasn't the other way around? ie the son pressuring the dad for example?
I was in work but when home will have a gander at explicit ship pics.
Whatever floats your boat.. Gets coat!
There was one article in the Examiner and a friend of one of the fella's was very hopeful when he heard the knocking. He said something to the effect oh that's him alright he's so clever.
It seemed a really obvious thing to me to make periodic noise when stuck in something you can't get out of🤔
Live presser on Sky News...
It's reminding me of Dan Clancy's cousin at 9:20
Listening to the US coastguard guy on Sky News, it seems that these "noises" were have been blown up by the press etc.
These guys don't sound too optimistic.
The 70 hours of air they were supposed to have is a best-case scenario - all systems working and in good condition.
They have C02 scrubbers which I believe require electrical power (to run pumps and heaters). This is the main system in terms of how many hours breatheable air they have. So if the hull is intact but without power then the scrubber doesn't work and they are long since dead. They were probably dead before the authorities were even notified.
However I still think it's more likely the hull imploded during the initial descent and they died instantly.
The hull imploding with instant death looks like the best scenario now. Torture if they're alive at the bottom of the ocean awaiting their fate.
That’s what I was imagining. You’d need quite an oil tanker as the support vessel
Assuming the worst has happened, I do very much hope they find the Titan so the relatives can get answers and lessons can be learned, and it would be ideal to get the bodies for funerals.
Some serious knowledge on here. Very interesting.
As a maritime lay man the force required to move anything with that water pressure must be unreal.
There's no way they could 'leach' some sort of rescue vessel onto the sub I'd imagine, and bore in?
not a chance at that depth.
only way to recover anybody from that capsule will be on the surface.
That's a bit west of where the Titanic is and those groups of boats are fishing boats. The Titanic is further east, 41°43′57′′ N 49°56′49′′ W
The Atalante is still about 7 hours away (ESE) although she won't be of much benefit to a surface search I think.
In that picture above you can see a line of 3 (actually 5) SAR/special ops ships (blue icons) heading to the Titanic site from St. Johns.
The potential to recover the submersible, if located, will surely very much depend on where it is and what state it is in, amongst other factors. Also, who would pay for what would likely be a difficult and expensive operation? It is one thing to put all possible effort into finding people who may still be alive; if that turns out not to be the case, the various assets devoted to the search won't necessarily be suitable for or available for continued searching and/or recovery of the submersible. I suspect the "lessons learned" wouldn't be new ones anyway, given that it has long been known that deep-sea exploration is extremely hazardous and is best conducted with the highest-quality equipment - not what appears to be a somewhat amateur set-up with no back-ups if things went wrong.
If their CO2 scrubbers aren’t working then just quietly fall asleep, not the worst way to go but they’d have known their fate was sealed.
The web site https://oceangate.com/ is back working.
If they are on the surface they can't open the hatch anyway ?
Why does that exact patch look very quiet when I look at it, in comparison to your screenshot there?
edit: nevermind, apparently marine traffic is a way better website.
The sub looks very basic in terms of safety features etc...
Doubt if I would bring my son down there.
Ok. No smothering feeling then.
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