Also, sort out the fec king toilets !
Can the old stand be extended to cover all that side?
I think the CB have applied before but the residents on the other side of the road objected to any raise in height which I wouldn't blame them for, they have to live there every day of the week.
On the news of Big Phil's roll and Michael Fennelly finally being confirmed hopefully we can move on and get some proper structures in place the one thing that concerns me slightly is again the focus seems to very quickly switch to capital projects. The Gym in Dunmore (needed) all weather floodlit pitches (needed) roof on the Paddy Grace stand (not urgent) floodlights in Nowlan Park (needed but will likely be objected to again). The first two should have been part of the Dunmore development from the start. Anyway my point is I think the investment needs to go into coaching around the county and the development squads. I believe every lad who has the ability to play for Kilkenny and is part of a development squad (hopefully identified outside their own club setup) should have a file on strengths, weaknesses, physical condition, prior injuries.... This would be updated as the year and years go on so you could track improvements, injuries etc. Even if these lads are dropped from development squads there should be contact maintained (biannually) skills and conditioning programs offered to them until the age of 22-23 focusing on what they need to improve on to get back into the setup. Most obviously won't make it, many might not turn up for there biannual review and if they don't you close the file. It's however still available if this player blossoms at club level at the age of 25 or 6 and the senior manager can take a quick look at a lads file get a flavour of him and might gain an insight into how to manage him. This kind of empirical data I think would be hugely beneficial to a manager but also new coaches or a review of the success of the setup. If someone new takes on M Fennellys roll in 5, 10 or 15 years time they could look at what's been done before and adjust based on their experience rather than being like M Fennelly now pretty much going in blind relying on lads remember what happened 3 months or 3 years ago.
I would far prefer to see resources put into setting up a system like this, that coaches the players properly along and keeps track of them and keeps them in touch with the scene. That for me is more important to Kilkenny currently than a gym and more pitches. They will be needed too but we need to get the house in order first then we can look to add on an extension. Great if we have the resources to do both but as far as I know we don't currently. Hopefully Phil can help in that regard. He has huge contacts all over Europe and globally and knows plenty of key decision makers.
I agree with the above and we must have development structures in place as a priority with the gym and pitches in dunmore next up and finally improvements to the park.which incidentally if there was work to be done I would certainly be trying to increase capacity to thirty thousand which would make the park a bigger attraction.
Other than some financial backing from the Phil Hogan project I imagine the two projects are mainly independent of each other. M Fennelly and his project is up and running already. The Hogan project will take longer to pay dividends. Therefore the importance of player development has already been prioritised and rightly so.
Any money raised by Phil Hogan needs to be ring fenced for the projects as identified and not just hoarded again with the normal income flow.
Just on the developments mentioned at the county board meeting on Monday night. As someone said the development of the roof on the new stand may not be in too bad nick or in need or urgent repair but from what they were saying that in the next 5/10 years it will be in urgent need or repair and the price then is likely to be far higher than it is now so they are trying to get out in front and do it at a more cost effective time. From what they were saying the roof will be similar to Carroll stand behind the goal, with the roof stripped back and the pillars removed. With regards to the floodlighting, if planning is to be granted for them it would be for a limited number of games per year, I believe something similar was granted to Wexford when they put the floodlights up that there is a limit to the amount of games been able to be played under lights, off the top of my head I think it was between 12-15 games. I also think the development of other training pitches with floodlights is a bigger priority at the minute.
Just on the Club scene...
What are the fixtures like for hurling clubs this year?
The Camogie fixtures are a mess (to put it mildly)
Its not easy, but by god , 'they' are making a mess of it !
No games for weeks, no dates given, no results published, website is a half a$$ed attempt with little info .....
Does anyone know what was wrong with mikey Carey? Heard a mention of hospital on some podcast
The senior/intermediate championships are kicking off on the 4/5/6 of August and it's week on week for the first 3 rounds, a break week and then 2 weeks in a row to finish the group stages around the second weekend in September, would imagine junior will be going on similar dates also. Think all the fixtures are up on the website.
Sounds a LOT more organised than the camogie then ....
Theres a schedule set out, but not adhered too really... weeks behind, games not played, games played no results posted... 🙄
I heard mikey carey had some sort of heart issue and collapsed. Likely not to play for the foreseeable future. Second hand info though.
That's very unfortunate for him if true. Wishing him a speedy recovery
That sounds like a mess in fairness, I think the sooner the better the GAA/Camogie/LGFA all amalgamate under the GAA the better, the ultimate losers here are the girls who are trying to play camogie.
I was told that the body gave up on Friday due to the level of training he's put himself through the last 2 months. I really really hope it's not as serious as you've heard.
RTE had player stats that they displayed on screen during the game.
No idea where you would go to get/see them though .... 🤔
If you're on twitter or instagram look up @GAA_Statsman and he has stats up of our game on Sunday
Hopefully he makes a speedy recovery
I'm sure their independent of each other all right but what I'm saying rather than just paying M Fennelly to do the job part time why not get more funds and employ some people to help him do the work and keep track of all these young lads. I agree the other projects are or will be needed but if our teams fall off a cliff in terms of competitiveness in 3-5 years it won't be much good saying look at all our wonderful facilities if you've no one to use them. Both need to be done but I think we're further behind on the playing coaching end than we are on the facilities end. I want to see more than a token gesture/money invested in the players. If you have no players you have no games and you have no organisation. If we can do the other projects while fully investing in the player pathway and coaching then great. If it's one over the other I think players first, infrastructure second.
I heard he had bad dizziness on Friday at training and the Dr was worried so he sent him to Lukes. He's been there since they won't let him out until they figure out what it is. Hopefully he's ok and bounces back and makes a full recovery.
I don't disagree with you. M Fennelly is up and running, and that's the priority. I'd like to think he'll assess what's needed and request/demand whatever is required. Meanwhile, and separately for now, hopefully Phil Hogan's project takes off and is successful and provides funding for number 1, player development and number 2, infrastructure.
It's positive news.
Fogarty was on a bit of ball if I remember correctly. He will always give you a 100% and he does alot of selfless work and is good in rucks. He had a great turn over on joe Cooney I think. Probably hasn't the legs for 70 mins but he will always give you what he has. We haven't figured out midfield yet and infairness to Kenny who has seen little action he got back on Tom monaghan for a great hook and threw over 2 nice points. He also gave blanchfield the ball for mossys goal.mid field was bypassed so Kenny got himself into good positions.
Blanchfield has being a big find for us. He made the 2 goals and caught a few great balls. He will get alot of confidence from that performance. Mikey Carey is suppose to be out of hospital today.
I agree that Donnelly and Tom phelan both hurled well despite not troubling the score board. Donnelly drove a few wides he will be dissapointed with but we would be hoping some day he will click and put 4 or 5 over. He had the ball in the net the time advantage was pulled back.Tom was probably a little unlucky to be substituted when he was but he can be happy with his performance.he is good in the air and direct. Pity he wasnt brought in a few years earlier.He was eager to get on the scoreboard which is fair enough but he could of threw out a few balls.
Billy Ryan made 2 decoy runs for the 2 goals creating space and could of had a penalty the time sean stack gave the free back.Very dissapointing before that incident he should of pulled the trigger earlier but didn't back himself on his right so when he turned into his left the chance was gone. This isn't the 1st time this happened and isn't good enough at this level.He should of threw out Donnelly the ball earlier the one that was in the net. If the injuries clear up he will be under pressure to start the next day .
We would of took where we are now a few months ago. We have 4 weeks to clear up the injuries. Mullen would be a huge help he should be very close if it all goes well. Tj answered a few critics I thought he was very good especially in that heat. Hopefully he's timing his run like last year but he is a freak. Lawlor was outstanding and after a few shakey days he was excellent.tommy was under pressure the last 10 mins. Kevin Cooney really came alive. Eoin Cody has really stepped up the last few games and hopefully he can keep that going. We should try get even more out of him like what limerick do with gillane. Some of the ball going in was difficult but thats the kinda game it was. Alot of route one.i actually thought it was a better match than the munster final. They should probably look at Tullamore when it's these 2 teams.
Henry will be disgusted and I don't think he has improved galway that much althoughthey got it spot on with whelan feeding off the breaks and im delighted for whelan he is a great bit of stuff. Braindead from jackie to say that. It will be intresting to see if henry will go again next year.The road to the all Ireland is very tricky now for them. Daithi Burke is better at 3 and like Lawlor for us he brings stability to that area. We could of have 6 or 7 goals for a team that wasn't scoring goal but its obvious we have worked very hard on this because kk were mad for goals last sunday the same against Wexford.
Looking back at the match, we hit 6 wides, 4 of them came from Donnelly, one from Padraig Walsh, one from a TJ free, who also hit a post with a free. You would hope that Donnelly would be more accurate the next day, at least he is getting on the ball. Billy Ryan won 3 frees, one was scored, another hit the post, the third TJ hit short to Cody and a free was awarded to Galway. I think TJ tried something similar against Cork a few years ago and a Cork official interfered with the play. But it showed, as Brookville says, that Kilkenny had goals on their mind
I mentioned it in the general thread, but I do think that the KK vs Galway game went a little under the radar. Croke Park wasn't a good choice of venue, and the first half showed plenty of hurling quality but very little real intensity. 2nd half was a cracker. Kilkenny now in the semi, and Galway with a very difficult/impossible task.
Wouldn't put Kilkenny too far behind Limerick or Clare.
Kilkenny seem to make the very most of what they produce at underage. Galway seem to lose that underage talent they produce, and their 24 team senior championship probably isn't doing them much use either.
It was good to see denis walsh,niall Rowe,Peter Mcdonald and Ian byrne all part of the extended panel last sunday. It was an awful pity denis walsh wasn't available for the u20 and niall Rowe was only a sub for whatever reason. The u20 management will look back with regret on their team selection against Wexford. It was a missed opportunity with a good crop.
We need our younger players to stand up and show leadership.it looks like Blanchfield,Donnelly and eoin Cody are starting it. Mullen is a key player for us. I'd like to see us giving a isolated eoin Cody better ball inside he could be a bigger threat.
It was very evident last sunday just before full time both teams were only being tested properly for the first time this year. It was like lads were drunk up in that corner trying to get it out. I know the heat was serious but both teams were bet.i don't know what they would of done if it had went to extra time. That game was better than 10 trainings and with the break the lads should be fresh going into the semi final.Getting the few injuries right is key.
A couple of comments on the match to add to some of the previous ones
Is Ronan Corcoran still on the panel does anyone Know??
No he dropped himself off.
I think Donnelly has become a very important part of this team. Even though he didn't score a whole lot and hit some bad wides his movement and ball winning ability kept Daithi Burke quiet and limited his influence on the game, it also helped leave big holes in the centre of the Galway defence that Blanchfield/Mossy, Wally and Mikey exploited for the first 3 goals. One of Donnelly's best qualities is that he is a very intelligent hurler as was shown at the end by the ball he played which eventually came to Buckley for the goal. Just before that he had played a ball over his head which TJ nearly got on the end of also.
On Shefflin, you'd have to feel for him there must have been massive pressure on him to win on Sunday, especially up against Derek and given the obvious comparisons that would be made on the losing manager. I definitely think this affected some of his decision making.
I agree with everything above and great news that Mikey Carey is out. One thing I would point out about Jackie's comment is that it was made off air and in conversation. Whether it was the right or wrong thing to say it was very wrong of Joanne Cantwell to bring it up on air and ambush her colleague like that. Journalistically it's very poor form to bring up something which was said off the record, live on TV. If you watch it back Jackie is a bit stunned initially that she's bringing it up but in fairness to him he tried to answer her and didn't shirk from it. She seems to try and create controversy every week and Jackie got the brunt of it this week.
I think the manner of.the loss.from a galway point of view will probably help Henry..they essentially had the game won..were 8 down and came back to be 2 up..the goal at the end wouldn't happen again if.the ball.went to the corner a thousand times..10 people had it in their hands and dropped it..the kick went straight to buckleys.hand..couldn't do it again if he tried
Agree totally re Donnelly..
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