Gab is definitely a contrarian and always strikes me as a spiky individual but I really couldn't understand the logic yesterday that more money in the game is a good thing and it doesn't matter where the money comes from.
Does he honestly think there isn't enough money in football/golf as it is?
It's actually a mystery why they don't have a YouTube channel for patreons. Make small clips to draw people in to pay for it, also just for purely posting videos and monetizing them. Very small investment for them. I'm sure newstalk are making a fortune for streaming everything on the platform. I just see it as lost revenue.
Gab was all over the place yesterday. Basically a Saudi shill.
I thought the worst bit was when he said the Saudi PIF had to make money for Saudi citizens so they couldn’t just splurge on whatever they wanted.
Has he forgotten that SA is an absolute dictatorship? Does he think all those super yachts parked up in Puerto Banus and elsewhere in the Med all summer belonging to members of the SA royal family were bought on behalf of the ordinary citizens?
The SA regime has shown time and time again that it will spend money on what it wants, and it is not accountable to the SA people. You’d think he was talking about the Norwegian PIF.
saudia arabia has a huge civil service that is basically handy jobs for citizens who do nothing
Yeah, that stuff was unbelievably stupid.
Yeah I believe there's a quota on how many Saudi nationals have to be employed, 70% I think.
Murphs hungover story was hugely underwhelming.
Yeah very anticlimactic. Ken interrupting him didn't really help either.
Although I did laugh when he called him a pothole
Yeah, and like a stroppy 14 year old is just itching to to say "Actually, you have that wrong there" about fùckin anything.
Yeah, Marcotti is a total windbag. Just comes across as a brash know it all, thankfully, he's not on that much. Also seems to have no sense of humour.
I know Miguel Delaney gets on a lot of people's nerves, but give me him over Marcotti, any day of the week
100%
Like choosing between a punch in the face and a kick in the balls.
Glad to see Marcotti getting such a digging. He's an awful gobshite. I wonder what Ken and Jonathan Wilson made of him
James Horncastle should be their number one pick for Italian football. He’s been great every time he was on. Either him or Shane Curran, lol.
I can't believe they don't have clips on YouTube and tiktok. Easily sharable and can go viral.
I get the feeling they record a lot of things twice. The odd podcast over the years have left in bits where they are saying things for the second time so it's recorded properly. If they did it live on YouTube they couldn't do that.
Also, not everything is recorded in one sitting. Guests come in at different times of the day.
Some live YouTube stuff with audience interaction would be great.
Personally I wouldn't be interested in watching the midweek stuff on YouTube and as pointed for technical/editorial reasons it probably isn't feasible.
But the live shows would be great and as someone pointed out- Tiktok clips can go a long way for promotion.
They don't do a great job at promoting themselves really. Even with their RTE gig you'd think, as a passing radio listener, that it was summer filler cooked up in Montrose.
Quick sums on their Patreon numbers has them taking in somewhere in the region of €740k per annum. That's before you include the likes of their merch and deals with rte or BBC (I assume the various columns and tv gigs are the individual's own money), which isn't bad at all with minimal advertising.
Only Ken can salvage that borefest of a final (apart from Lukaku's ridiculously entertaining miss)
Is it correct for Second Captains to consider themselves "independent" when they have these other revenue streams outside of their Patreon? Among other things, they have sponsors, feature in ads/endorsements for other products, and are partnered with the national broadcaster.
They own the company, so yes.
I took the "independent platform" references in their promotional material as referring to them being an 'independent media platform', you reckon it's a reference to the ownership structure of the company and nothing else?
They did make unwise commitments about advertising in the very early days, but really I think it's a reference to not being owned by Denis O'Brien.
by that rationale, any media company that take any advertising isn't independent, so barely anybody is independent. the lads you hear on the podcast own the company (along with mark and the other lads, forget his name) and answer to nobody, i'd consider that 100% independent
I suppose you might expect it to instead say 'independently owned' if that's the case.
It's an established concept and generally refers to outlets that aren't under the influence of corporate or national entities so that interpretation of the rationale doesn't really wash.
Would like to hear Jamie Wall's thoughts on it. Judging by his instagram stories, I have to say I'd probably agree with him.
They also used to say SC would be “member-led”, whatever that meant
Ah they’re clearly independent in fairness. I know they’ve done shows for RTÉ and the BBC but I’d consider these separate to the podcast itself and not influencing the content.
They’ve had a sponsor or two for the live shows but again I don’t think it’s something impacting the shows content.
Questioning whether they are independent isn’t fair to me anyway. The tone of the show etc is clearly just set by them with no outside influence.
What was he saying?
Actually looking forward to what Jamie says about the end of the Munster final. I hope they address the Limerick fans openly stealing the Claire equipment
