Collins sat circles around ex lawyer Jim trusty in this exchange from last night. His huffing and fuming and Qanon vibes might have a smidge to do with why he resigned from the case. Worth a watch, a lot of hay written about this exchange.
This perfectly sums it all up. So if he is convicted on all 38, what would be the standard sentencing for each charge?
U.S. Congressman Andy Biggs (R-AZ) after Trump's indictment: "We have now reached a war phase"
Max is 10 years on some, 20 years on others. Isn't Trusty gone, hard to keep up.
Sedition 2.0 is in the air for sure.
Aileen Canon, the trump appointed judge, who oversaw the challenge to the subpoena, will be handling this case
Iconic.
What is the likelihood of Trump seeing the cell, if found guilty?
After reading the indictment, I’d say pretty high.
Translation: "Yeah, he's fúcked, but my job is safer if I keep the base angry."
Female Trump family member, I'd say we can rule out Melania. wonder who it could possibly be 🤔
I mean to say, would they apply the same standards to a former US President? Maybe they would, but it's hard to imagine Trump in jail for 15 years.
Moreover, given the information that has come out i.e. that Trump took classified documents that included information regarding defence and weapons capabilities of both US and foreign countries; US nuclear programs, vulnerabilities of the United States and allies to military attack and plans for possible retaliation in response to such an attack - is there a rationale as to why Trump would have placed these documents in his home?
In other words, what may have been his end goal here?
Your one on the left?
Did Chelsea Manning see jail time? And do dogs pee on brick walls?
who do you think could possible benefit from the contenets of these docs.
There's no shortage of hostile countries theat would be only delighted to get their hands on that info
Didn’t his son in law get $2 billion from the Saudi’s?
I mean, this is completely unprecedented in the US, but other leaders have been imprisoned before so there’s no reason if he’s found guilty that he should receive special status.
Does it matter why he had them and refused to hand them back, no. Don't care about jail time, once he's found guilty for what he did.
"We have one set of laws in this country, and they apply to everyone." - Jack Smith
is there a rationale as to why Trump would have placed these documents in his home?
Reportedly in the indictment: because he was angry with Milley and the Joint Chiefs putting him on a leash after January 6, and Milley refusing his outrageous orders to abruptly leave US military bases overseas to abandon. He wanted all of the documents so he could have biographers craft narratives he wanted to peddle in response.
I think they would have to apply the same standards, particularly as it relates to the Espionage Act. He won't be in the local county lockup or anything, but it's more likely than ever that he could face jail time. The transcript has proven that he knew the documents were classified, knew he couldn't declassify them, was willfully showing them to people, and obstructed the authorities in recovering the docs.
As for why he wanted them, I'd say the answer is pretty simple...
He wanted to show off. Just read the transcript of him showing off the documents. He wanted "cool stuff" to show off to visitors.
Okay sure, and if Trump is found guilty of these felony charges, he should face the consequences of his actions.
I'd still be interested to learn why this took place i.e. was there an ulterior motive to keep the documents in his home - and if so - what were those reasons?
I understand some have said those reasons or motive don't matter, but I'd certainly like to learn what they are.
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In other words, what may have been the end goal here?
Maybe he wanted to use those documents as leverage, which would be stupid and ignorant to think that would work but,
this man is most certainly ignorant (in a political sense, at the very least) and stupid? Well, stupid is as stupid does.
Otherwise, he could have just grabbed loads of boxes of documents, not even knowing what they were and just did it because he could. Half ego, half spite.
Maybe there was a foreign influence instructing him or his team to take these things.
All just theories off the top of my head. Bit of spitballing. The overarching point is that he literally should never have had material this sensitive laying around his house and lying about having it, to boot. He appears to be in a lot of trouble, here.
Incredible images of where they were held.
Compare these with the MIL Standard on SCIFs.
Privilege.
Stubbornness.
Monetary incentive.
Stupidity.
Pick one or more...
It's a byline, his motives. Won't influence the outcome of the case.
My instinct tells me that the only reason he had these documents at Mar-a-Lago, was to show them off to the other **** while holding court in the dining room of the Club. To be able to wax lyrical about all his achievements as President.
Trump may have other intentions, but they all always come second to massaging his own big ole' narcissistic ego.
I don't blame you, as at this point it's of interest to at minimum every citizen of NATO what he might have compromised and why.
Well there is times and dates and lots of text conversations between Nauta and trump employees and relaying of things trump said to Nuata. They also have part of the FBI interview walt Nuata did in where they show him lying to them when they had the evidence of what he did.
@[Deleted User] I haven't had the time just yet to read the thing myself but this was the segment I listened to where they explained the potential General Milley motive, which reportedly is explained in the indictment:
From about 7 minutes you can weave in on that subject.
They to me are the best four pages of the 49 as it lays it out clearly as to what he had.
Just out of interest, why do you think motive is important in this case?
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