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From Facebook:
Sunday 18th of June
Double header in Tullamore
2:15pm Cork V Mayo
4:00pm Dublin V Sligo
Who's posting that?
There isn’t enough time between the games for that to be accurate for a start
Don't think capacity would be big enough in tullamore for a double header with Dublin.
My sister sent it into the family group chat.
Dunno what page it's from so I don't know how reliable.
It also had the Sunday 18th as a double header for
Kerry V Louth at 2:15pm and
Kildare V Roscommon at 4pm in Portlaoise
There was just over 8,000 at Kildare V Dublin in Kilkenny.
I can't see them bringing a huge crowd to play sligo. And I can't see much travelling from sligo either.
The venue, time etc will be announced tomorrow.
Anyone hazard a guess if our game is likely to be televised on RTE or the dreaded GaGo?
That is why it is vital we finish top. A "home" preliminary in the confines of McHale park against a Tyrone / Monaghan would not be something to look forward to. A QF at CP against those same teams is a different proposition
Its funny, the pitch didn't look half as bad in the flesh, I was amazed when I saw the TV footage.
Hard to know what to make of Sunday, in one way we were leading by 5 points with three minutes of injury time played, we had kept them at arms length for the match, it meant we had the buffer to concede the goal.
The flip side is that a lot of teams now have shown the template to frustrate us, Louth gave up the kick outs and retreated back. We've a bright backroom team so you'd hope they are working hard on this before we come up against Tyrone or Galway but this has been an issue for us for a long time.
I'd expect us to beat Cork, especially in Tullamore or Limerick
Definitely a weird game. We were in control with a 5 point lead with about a minute and a half left and I would have said we got the job done, even though it wasn't pretty.
That said, I felt we were laborious at times and scuffed goal chances yet again (we seriously need to work on this, it will be the difference between winning and losing a big game yet). The lack of shots from distance too is a concern. Nobody seemed too confident on that front and there was a lot of lateral, dull play.
The goal concession was a very silly lapse in concentration. I thought it was one of Reape's poorer games in terms of his positioning at times. Jordan Flynn really struggled to get into it too and was coughing up a lot of possession. Sideline was a little slow making changes too imo, we needed the injection of pace sooner given the shape the game took.
All in all, nothing much to be excited about, even though we still got the win Still lots to work on. Other teams are definitely going to play to this template against us down the line so we really need to start using our imaginations a little.
Was just going to post my thoughts, but you've summed them up there.
1. Too lateral playing along the 45 against a blanket.
2. Nobody to take on the long shots.
3. No working the ball inside, and when we did, a fisted point was taken rather than going for goals.
I don't think we have that player to be taking on long points consistently, so we better start getting a bit more adventurous and trying to work the ball inside. I was extremely impressed with the way Derry set out to work it inside and go for goals vs Donegal.
A couple of goals goes an awful long way to winning a big match.
Very surprised if its Tullamore. Pretty sure it'll be Limerick, 1pm throw in.
I'd have expected it to be in Ennis, that's where we've usually played Cork and even a glance at the map shows it as being roughly halfway. The smaller ground there would make for a much better atmosphere than having it in Limerick
Ennis would be great, small tight venue with a full house, be a good atmosphere but no it'll be Limerick with a half empty stadium or worse
When is venue being announced?
Listened to half of the Ah Ref pod over the weekend, yer man Colm McNally is some bluffer:
"what advice would you have for Mayo this weekend"
"I think they should just get rid of the hype"
Lord Jesus, it's the kind of shite Spillane would have come out with 20 years ago and it was pure scutter even back then 🤣
Genuine question - who is Colm McNally. I did a quick google. I saw his name popping up in a few hits, but no background on who he played for.
I don't see any hype. I see ups after some nice wins, and then downs after a bad performance, and then ups again and so. And a nice excitement building, as the Championship progresses. At this stage, we all know that if Mayo get a win or a draw against Cork, they will top the group. And that will bring us straight into the last 8. It's not hype, It's jut hope and excitement. Nothing wrong with that .
apparently jersey launches are hype according to the lad.
that podcast is good at times but it’s starting to sound like the one of lads are taking themselves awful serious, they seem to have a very high view of their own opinions at times.
Think it was the first podcast of theirs that I gave up on half way through.
The 4 Cork supporters will be grand, they'll all be coming in the same car
coached Meath and a few others. He made alot of sense on the podcast, except for that comment on hype which was like something a 12 year old would say in the early 90s. Its as dead as "Meath never give up"
Petty snide remark
You hear those digs all the time in fairness. During the league was bizarre. We win a game and the first question McStay gets asked afterwards is how can a lid be kept on everything?! Moyles on off the ball every week was saying the same thing about Mayo need to be careful about getting carried away.
Nobody can give an example of this hype however!
Then we lose to Roscommon and apparently their manager reckons they were being disrespected beforehand! It's mad the nonsense people will make up.
Apparently having flags up (which they tend to be up all year around) is “hype” too.
There are not many footballers who can bang a ball over the bar from distance. I think others are afraid they will have this in their stats if they miss. Its all about possession now and getting the correct man in the correct position to fire it over the bar. Its all calculated risk now and this is starting to make the game very disappointing to watch. The crack Louth were at... well that is another level and I hope they never win anything playing that rubbish.
Paddy Durcan came in and basically fired over a shot after taking on two/three guys. He had enough of this pissing around with the ball(some call it lateral playing!!), well that is what I took from what he did. We need to open teams who play this game early on to make them play ball. Carr's pass to Oshea was dreadful and it would have opened up the game if O'Shea nailed it.
I expect Cork to play something similiar but not as negative. We always struggle with Cork so I think this game is not a formality. I must admit and I thought his day was done, but O'Shea has been brilliant todate, but the real football comes from once we get to the last eight. I wouldn't be overall concerned with our display last sunday as it would be harder to get excited about Louth and the heat of the day would be energy sapping.
There was a brilliant atmosphere in the GG in 2017 v Cork and there was only 10k at it (all from Mayo)
One of the best atmospheres I remember with Mayo!
I'd be happy with any of Ennis,Limerick or Tullamore.
Limerick it is, Kerry Louth is in O'Moore Park. Both are 2 pm kickoff.
Looks like the TV games on the Sunday will be Mayo/Cork and Galway/Armagh at 4 pm
I didn't mean that in a negative way, there are indeed very few forwards in the country that can do it. It just that we don't have one.
I get the impression that McStay is less about the stats / gives the players a bit more encouragement and freedom. So I don't think it's a fear thing. I think it's something we need to put the work in on in terms of patterns of play.
We do need to open teams up but running into a good blanket defense doesn't work all that often, not if they're doing it right. Some teams have shown how you can (hand or short kick) pass into a packed defence and unlock it. Derry did it very well at the weekend where they overloaded one side, got the ball in close to goal and then switched to the other side where there was space created... We weren't making those kind of movements at all. It was over and back the 45 for far too long.
Apologise for leading y'all down the Tullamore rabbit hole, blame Willie Joe. I see Kildare Roscommon is going to be there, thought that might be the other leg of the 'double header', certainly makes more sense as the venue for that clash.
Limerick is a more logical venue for Cork-Mayo, although it obviously suits them better...
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