It was a golden generation , money and population play a part in getting every team on the pitch to begin with .Jim Gavin won 6 All irelands a brilliant manager .
I will also be very clear for you , i think all the top Counties want for nothing in regards to resources , funding ,coaching structures etc
Do i think the above had zero impact on Dublins performace , no
Well I think we are in agreement then - the unfair advantages handed to Dublin had a positive impact on the team and contributed to their Dominance (the point of the thread)
Actually no we are not in agreement
OK, so you think that all those years of special treatment (additional resources, home advantage, special coaching structures etc) had no impact on dublins achievements?
I dont agree Dublin had special treatment (additional resources, home advantage, special coaching structures etc
Ok , so you dont agree all the top Counties , wanted for nothing in regards to resources funding coaching structures etc ?
By 2015 Dublin had 61 development people employed across the county - this was a scheme only available in Dublin. The province of Munster (which is bigger in every way - population, no of clubs, geographical spread) only had 34. Would you consider that special treatment?
In the period from 2011 to present, Dublin played 1 home game in Parnell Park (a behind closed doors covid game against meath) and the rest of them were in croke park, would you consider that as home advantage?
In a 10 year period to 2017, Dublin received 16 times more development funding than the next biggest county (probably linked to point 1 above), is that not considered special treatment in your eyes?
You are correct, there are other rich counties who have impressive setups, but Dublin are the only county that recieved these advantages.
By 2015 Dublin had 61 development people employed across the county - this was a scheme only available in Dublin. The province of Munster (which is bigger in every way - population, no of clubs, geographical spread) only had 34. Would you consider that special treatment? No
In the period from 2011 to present, Dublin played 1 home game in Parnell Park (a behind closed doors covid game against meath) and the rest of them were in croke park, would you consider that as home advantage? NO
In a 10 year period to 2017, Dublin received 16 times more development funding than the next biggest county (probably linked to point 1 above), is that not considered special treatment in your eyes? No
So the Dublin players are not just once in a generation talents, they are also the only team in the entire history of team sports that gain no benefit from extra coaching resources and home advantage.
Incredible, its like talking to a flat earther.
How do you justify answering "No" to each of those questions. Unless the comments made are not factual.
U20 All Ireland final in 2020. Galway beat Dublin by one point in Croke Park
DUBLIN: Josh O'Neill; Conor Tyrrell, Adam Rafter, Josh Bannon; Rory Dwyer, Adam Waddick, Lee Gannon; Adam Fearon, Mark O'Leary; Mark Lavin, Lorcan O'Dell, Sean Lowry; Ciaran Archer, Luke Swan, Brian O'Leary.
Only Lee Gannon has become a starter for Dublin seniors. Lorcan O'Dell on the panel any others? Dessie Farrell not bringing through many new faces and bringing back the old guard.
GALWAY: Conor Flaherty; Jonathan McGrath, Sean Fitzgerald, Jack Glynn; Cian Monahan, Tony Gill, Cathal Sweeney; Conor Raftery, Cian Hernon; Paul Kelly, Matthew Tierney, Ryan Monahan; Patrick Kelly, Tomo Culhane, Matthew Cooley.
A good number of that team are now either starting or are on the Galway 26 now. Joyce who was their U20 manager 2019 placing his trust in youth.
Your learning , Dublin 6 in a row team are a once in a generation team , again all the top Gaa teams want for nothing in regards to extra coaching resources etc , its also my opinion home games for Dublin are a disadvantage .
I believe Dublin playing all there games in Croke park is a disadvantage
Are the comments factual ?
Yes, the achilles heel of all top teams - home disadvantage. Would have hammered kerry last year if it was down in killarney. They might be on 10 in a row if they nominated castlebar instead of croker.
Nope its the achilles heel of Dublin playing in Croke Park in a near empty stadium , now if Dublins home games were played in Parnell Park who knows 😜
Nonsense, home advantage benefits Dublin just as it does every other team in basically every other sport. The stadium is empty for many games, particularly Leinster games, because people are tired with how the competition has been effectively rigged to benefit Dublin.
theyre tired of dublin winning and the competition format the overwhelming majority of people know the competition isnt rigged in any shape or form in favour of any team
Again more nonsense from this anti Dublin poster.
What county other than Dublin has enjoyed decades of advantages? In terms of population, funding, playing at home etc.
Cork Antrim Galway etc has population advantage over Leitrim Sligo etc , all top Counties want for nothing in terms of funding
Dublin playing home games in 3/4 empty Croke Park is a disadvantage in my opinion .
No again nonsense , Croke Park is a disadvantage to Dublin , attendances are down all over the country because of the puke football being played
Your argument is inconsistent- you sometimes say population isn't an advantage and other times say population is an advantage for counties with smaller populations than Dublin but only against counties with smaller populations. I accept population is an advantage but it is more or less irrelevant for every county other than Dublin given the sheer scale of Dublin's population advantage vs everyone else, including Cork. Playing at home is not a disadvantage, that doesn't hold true in any sport.
The style of football probably is reducing attendances but in Leinster specifically the main issue is Dublin being unfairly advantaged relative to every other county.
If population was always an advantage then the countries with biggest population would win everything and noone else would ever have a chance. many counties/countries/teams with bigger populations dont win/wont win..
It isnt irrevelent for every county. You are obsessed with Dublin when they are an issue but their dominance has no impact on the vast majority of counties and any chance to Dublin that you want will not improve the standing of most counties.
The only thing consistent is your nonsense posting , I believe Croke park is a disadvantage to Dublin, my opinion anyway, were have I ever said population is not an advantage ? I have been saying all along if Dublin has to be split , other Counties have to be split also .
Dublin City 592,713
Fingal 330,506
South Dublin 301,705
Kildare 247,774
Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown 233,860
Roscommon 70,259
Sligo 70,198
Dublin is like a province on it's own. Such a pity the Railway Cup has fallen away. It would be the perfect platform for Dublin to take on the other 4 provinces.
No it isnt like a province on its own. and comparing two of the smallest county populations isnt right.
Your own county has well over double those counties populations. that should be a concern considering your countys dominance over the history of all ireland. should be split in kerry as well. and you have perfect divisions set up for it as well in east kerry etc and the players will be used to it as many do it at club level as well.... fans would have no problem supporting them....
It isnt a pity the Railway cup has fallen away and no Dublin wouldnt and shouldnt compete in it as theyve a team to play in it - leinster.
All splitting up Dublin would do which is what a lot if counties want is make them considerably weaker .The interest in Gaa in Dublin is relatively small if Gaa was the big thing we would be winning it most years .The six in a row was a one off and looking at the records of the modern times we only were winning about one a decade .
Dublin contains three counties and the capital city. If the three counties of Dublin were designated a third of the city each based on traditional postcodes, it is the solution. North Dublin, Mid Dublin and South Dublin. Two counties of Dublin will sell out Croke Park for a provincial final.
I agree that splitting dublin would just make them weaker but dont see how interest in GAA in dublin is relatively small.
For administrative purposes only. Identity is huge and these so called counties have been in existence for years and nobody identifies as from them. theyre dubs. it isnt a solution. try make a mid dublin and see how people would make of it. not a hope people would do it.
A split dublin doesnt benefit all counties. 2 dublin sides in a provincial final would be terrible for all counties bat your own and very few others.
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