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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Ya think ? . So simple. Don't know why nobody has thought of that before 🤔



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Me too. Ever watch the border control programs on TV that show the likes of the Italian and Australian border control who grill anyone who rocks up that they have doubts about?

    With our lads it appears their story is taken at face value and it seems they just get directed to IP



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Those asylum seekers who have been processed and been given residency status but still live in direct provision centres - Are they paying the going rate for rent and paying for food and utilities out of their pay packets?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    No !! . I added that to the post instead of a making another post .Trying to squeeze something out of it are you .

    Post edited by rgossip30 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    So to describe a small parish community as cliquey is equal to describing them as “ hostile “ ?

    I think it’s you who needs a few lessons in language



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    So how are those Ukrainians , former asylum seekers or those on minimum wage going to pay for these houses . ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭slay55


    The far right


    there is no far right here ….. yet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Didn't read it because it's on the Times UK , which is behind a wall , so yes hopefully talking about somewhere else .

    Oops , according to them it IS the IRISH Far Right !

    https://archive.is/2023.05.14-003326/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/irish-far-right-plan-to-increase-violent-attacks-znsvt6k63



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    So how does that make them any different to, say, the Polish who came here to work back in 2004. Back then, the Polish were most definitely not coming over to work the high paying jobs. They seemed to integrate just fine though, and now their kids are doing the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Poor Lucas penniless fleeing the sambas

    They is probably genuine cases we should help but this free for all is too much, the government should allow the people a vote a referendum on the matter



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How many times have we heard of TDs and people objecting to social housing and traveller accommodations near them or in their represented area with success



  • Posts: 172 ✭✭ Layne Quick Shoplifter


    Another 300 IP applicants going to Galway. Where and when will this end!?

    We have a housing crisis...people who have been citizens here for years and struggling to afford to just rent or buy. Paying crazy money at that.

    What about our student accommodation crisis? What is going to happen in September? Are the government putting the same effort into making accommodation for students available!?

    Hearing on the radio earlier of the student nurse making a 4 hour round trip to college each day. She was exhausted. This government have failed her.

    I am livid, just livid!

    Again, I am not a racist...I am a realist.

    I am fed up of the spin by the government and media.

    2 months ago, there was uproar and huge media coverage about the eviction ban being lifted, which has stopped abruptly. What about those families and people???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Fine Gael councillor Tom Connolly has told President Michael D. Higgins to house refugees at Áras an Uachtaráin, following the President's advice to the Irish population around "embracing inclusion".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    I can entirely see where you're coming from but as I see it this effort was never going to be put to the housing crisis anyway.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,199 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Has the Government/Taoiseach in waiting, (SF or MLMD) made a statement on the matter yet? I need to know who to vote for to sort this out. The people demand change you know!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭MegamanBoo


    I doubt Messi could even take a ball and run with it like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    I get you now. You want a limit on the numbers coming in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭ArthurDayne


    I’m one of those people who spent months commuting almost 2.5 hours a day, living with my girlfriend’s mum (which isn’t ideal at the age of 31), endlessly checking for a rare response on Daft and going to the God-awful viewings. And that’s just for renting — I’m still a donkey’s roar from being in a position to buy. Am I angry about that? Yes. Obviously. But there are two things here.

    Firstly, on a high level, I don’t take it for granted that my personal concerns and affairs outweigh the fact that there is a world around me with all sorts of things happening in it — and that there are other peoples’ interests to be balanced against mine. The outright trumping by my interests of the interests of others, including refugees, is not what I want and I’d say a lot of young people feel the same.

    Secondly, I think the idea that young people are genuinely “competing” with refugees for accommodation is a red herring. There may be some strain on supply of accommodation, but the idea that some place housing 100 refugees could be housing 100 Irish young people is theoretical rather than being something which would likely actually happen in reality. The blame for the housing crisis lies squarely on a longstanding failure to modernise housing policy and planning policy, which was been starkly exposed by post-Covid and post-Ukraine economic conditions globally. Being angry about refugees is a disproportionate portioning of blame.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭waterwelly


    Over 300 people seeking international protection (IP) are to be accommodated at a former office block in Galway.

    From RTE.ie.

    It seems that every day now there's another one.

    So that's an office block that can't be used by a multinational or Irish business.

    It's all men again, as usual.

    O'Gorman in the article seems quite delighted with himself that he's doing such a great job of making life comfortable for the tourists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,203 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Wow we are so lucky they are coming our way, ah sure we can put them to work on the farms like Brid Smith said.

    Its silage season now they can drive the tractors.

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    They would have been working albeit not earning a whole lot straight away .

    Many had their whole families with them or soon after .

    Not living concentrated direct provision and not having labels over their heads . Maybe moving in with other people they know from home .

    Working with other Poles maybe even Polish bosses who give them tips and pointers on the way to get on and settle .

    You know.. all the sort of things that help the Irish or other groups when they emigrate .

    Mingling but still having support from people from home who have the wherewithal to give that support .

    These are all freedoms we take for granted that are important for integration , as well as access to state ( financial medical and educational) supports .

    The colour of their skin and ability to speak English undoubtedly helped as well generally .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    It's a vacant office block . 🙄

    Many around because people are wfh that can't be used for housing until they are made habitable, bathrooms kitchens fire safety .

    But nevertheless yesterday it was spoken about finally changing planning so this can be done .

    This might be the start of sorting homelessness and taking the pressure off the housing crisis also .

    Lets be honest many working Irish people may not be exactly enamoured by staying in former office block for accomodation.

    But as a stepping stone , for students , those travelling onwards , it could be a godsend .

    Like the massive hostels all over Europe, Australia, America .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,203 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Must be a few vacant office blocks around RTE, bet they wouldn't be half as smart if 200 lads were moving in beside them .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    I doubt that but I stand to be corrected.

    O'Gorman was out recently trying to encourage them to go out into the big bad world, where they can avail of all the supports available to them from the govt - HAP etc

    They don't seem to be in a massive rush to do that though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Did I hear something recently from Leo that they were going to change something to make Ireland less attractive to asylum seekers and that change would make us more in line with what the rest of Europe offers. Anyone have info on that? Or did I imagine it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Been said before , oh wait, it was tents in Montrose the last time .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,707 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    You did...large centres accomodation by 2024 .. Replacing smaller centres .

    Not sure if anything else...except flotels maybe .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Ok thank you. So bigger centres and no policy change then I must have misheard it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    AFAIK not one current sitting Dail TD has been against limited capping the numbers, overhauling the process etc., none with balls or gumption to come out and speak up for the people



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Hodger


    The only TD I can think of who has called for a cap on numbers relating in Inward migration has been Carol Nolan last summer.




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