I could accurately say that 2009-2011 were fantastic years because I personally got a series of promotions and pay rises that meant my take home pay increased by 75%+ in that time-frame.
But just because it was great for me doesn't negate the objective fact that the Global economy was in the toilet.
Your local personal experience doesn't negate the actual facts that show that Trumps growth numbers were weaker than every other President in the previous 50 years.
Anecdotes aren't data.
"It happened for me, so it must be happening for everyone, right?"
Facts are, where you living in the US at that time?
Wrong again
So no evidence. Debunked.
Booming Economy, No Wars, Inflation kept in check, Low Gas Prices, 401Ks highest ever, Pension Levels highest ever, Got rid of the federal Tax Mandate of ObamaCare that was hurting working class families, Tax Breaks for Single Mothers, Wanted to bring in the Death Penalty for Opioid & Fentanyl Dealers, Strict on & enforced Illegal Immigration, Securing the Mexican Border, etc....Bye Bye wish you all the best bud. 😎
Again nothing.
Wanted to bring in the Death Penalty for Opioid & Fentanyl Dealers
What is this supposed to mean? How would this have solved anything?
And like a miracle, it was gone by mid-2020.
Stop with the no wars nonsense. You meant, "no wars officially ended." That didn't happen till 2021.
And, come 2022, the tax cut from 2017, resulted in massive deficits by 2022. So, 'goosed stock prices' is what happened. Stock buybacks happened, GDP didn't grow much, and investment didn't take off. Lots of great bonuses though as most C-suiters are paid in options.
Oh, and very low interest rates meant lots of cheap money, which means, inflation. And extra nice, more bank failures.
It takes some man to have lived in America during 7 different presidencies, lived in England too and yet still seems to be up on Kerry GAA. It’s almost like someone is an absolute spoofer here
And the UN laughed at him.
Don't forget his time in Australia.
All that travel and still manages to keep up with fair city.
Job growth numbers ?
Its hard to keep increasing jobs when you reach 3.5% unemployment which the US did in February 2020, the lowest since December 1969.
Heres another fact for you the U.S. had more job openings than workers to fill them. That was the case for 23 straight months from March 2018 through February 2020.
The labor force participation rate declined, from 65.7% to 62.8%, during Obama’s two terms, under Trump, the rate seemed to stabilize and even ticked upward, reaching a high of 63.4% in January 2020
During Trump’s four years in office, wages went up and inflation remained in check.
The problem is that, when faced with the argument that, "Trump is pure evil - a fascist - nothing good could possibly have come from the man; the modern incarnation of Hitler", facts don't matter any more.
Including the facts you've introduced.
The fundamental, almost-religious belief that literally nothing good could possibly have come from Trump, will be upheld.
And that's what's so bizarre.
I'm willing to admit many faults about Trump. Many. But many of the critics of Trump are unwilling to admit - almost by deception - that something good may have come from the four years of his administration.
People make jokes about TDS, and often times these jokes are unrealistic and extreme.
But sometimes you have to ask the question, what would it take for critics of Trump to recognise anything good about his administration - without propagandising it to suit their own personal and political agenda.
Way back in his early days I started a thread on the lines of - 'can we find any positives in Trump as POTUS?' It was a very short thread and quickly died a death.
Booming economy ...
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No wars? https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-afghanistan-airstrikes-increased-civilian-deaths-by-330-since-2016-2020-12
Inflation has nothing to do with the president. Inflation would be high now if Trimp was president due to high demand and low supply coming out of covid and Russia/Ukraine war
Ditto petrol prices.
401k are higher now and it's irrelevant anyway. Only 50% of Americans own stock and only 15% a retirement fund in stocks.
Evidence on pensions...
Trumps main aim from day one was to eliminate the ACA. He failed.
Trumps tax credit saw people earning $400,000 eligible for a child tax credit of $2,000 per child including members of Congress. Single parent on minimum wage received $75 or $1.50 per week.
Death penalty does not work and death penalty for drug dealers/users is insane. You want another Saudi Arabia..
Obama deported three times as many as Trump https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/trump-deportations-unfinished-mission
You had to be asked about half a dozen times to list any faults with Trump. Willing to admit? It had to be dragged out in a post kicking and screaming onto the thread.
You are rewriting history of the thread just as you try to rewrite Trumps over heating of the economy which was unsustainable and due an inevitable over correction.
Trump had a 4-year term.
Are you willing to admit any advantages?
He has every right to post on here why don't you ask Overheal the same questions on why he posts on here?
I'm willing to admit many faults about Trump. Many.
Sure you are 😂
He got conservative judges on the bench (it was really McConnell but trump rubber stamped them).
That's pretty much it as far as advantages go. He was a shyster businessman long before politics then became a shyster politician, those who knew him from his business days pretty much knew how his presidency would go (though it was even more farcical).
It's like trying to list the advantages of a fatal disease.
Though there have been a lot of new accounts come in and "don't support trump" but regurgitate all the trump talking points even referring to his crazy truth social posts to do so.
He mocked a disabled person by impersonating them at a rally in front of millions. Choose better heroes to bootlick, there is plenty out there.
It's a bit like asking for anything good Hitler or Stalin might have done. Sure, there may be one or two things that he managed to get right, but Trump is such a dreadful human being and was such a terrible president (IMO) that it seems to be a strange question to be attempting to answer. There is so much wrong with the man that you'd have to wonder why you're even bothering to try to find any positives.
So just to confirm, you believe Trump is the equivalent of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin?
Any advantages are ultimately irrelevent. Trump attempted to subvert democracy itself. It wouldnt even matter if he managed covid or economy well because that would be dwarfed by his later actions.
But were there even any advantages?
I cannot think of any major area of policy that isnt tarnished somehow - Afghanistan botched with release of dangerous prisoners... mixed signals to Russia over Ukraine, Economy overheated, Covid policy degenerated into irresponsibility. Chickens came home to roost eventually. And it didnt have to be this way. He blew it. Nobody else.
You are the one claiming you are willing to admit Trumps many faults. It is your claim not mine. Yet when asked to do so... out come the excuses and deflections and redirections and the transparent pretence that you are not here supporting Trump by defending him. Last time you even referenced fictitious posts when asked to list these faults.
Says it all.
1.1 million deaths from Covid in the states. Imagine if he had taken it seriously from the start. There's a lot of blood on that mans hands.
In a pandemic, speed is everything. In Dr. Fauci, he had a world leading expert but instead he spent his time coming up with racist nicknames for the virus and suggesting that people inject themselves with bleach.
Or literally stealing state supplies to make them beg for them back
Carrol likely to be awarded summary damages on top of what she’s already been awarded previously. Suit filed.
More legal woes
https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1660754248475328515?t=ZxwWeg_-IiL17oBVJECZwg&s=19
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