In Dublin this will affect civil and public servants the most, which is why it hasn't been implemented. It's a great idea though......
I was on the thread earlier, but I got a bit distracted. Sorry for the delay.
What kind of measures are you thinking of advocating for the lower paid staff?
Parking in Dundrum TC has always been charged.
They said I'm a flag waver, I said they are badge wearer.
I think it's disgusting you attack someone who flag waves for social equality and the environment. We also have people in the family with Disabled Persons Parking Permit. But no Blue Badges. Thats a UK thing AFAIK. I don't see what any of that has got to do with paid parking. Seems like a strawman.
In fairness, I try to keep the fact that I have a blue badge out of these threads, because it should be irrelevant.
But unfortunately I am not the type of person who sits back and only thinks of how things impact on me, despite being accused of being such. If I were, i wouldn't give a **** about these proposals, as I won't be personally impacted. However, I have staff and friends who will, if they are allowed to happen. And those people matter.
Now, gotta run. (not literally).
I wondered where you were!!
What took you so long getting here? Where you stuck on a meandering bus? 🚌
And yes, I'll definitely be advocating strongly on this, as both part of my dept's green team, (who is tasked with implementing these proposals), and as a union member.
To answer your question, you should know I always advocate for the best possible conditions for lower paid staff, it got me into a lot of trouble here in the past, with higher paid ones who thought taking care of the lower paid "devalued" them. But that's another thread.
Now, I'm off to get my hair done. I think I deserve it. See y'all later.
All I did was mirror your own posting style. So if you want "classy" reflected back...
People in general don't accidentally end up near (or far away from) train lines some of which are almost 100 yrs old. It's also quite the assumption that I've only ever travelled by train.
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...flag waving anti-car brigade members like yourself...
...your great green hero ER...
@...Ghost... wrote:
...the anti-car brigade...
...Box ticking, point scoring nonsense for the green and lycra brigade.
Does your argument really need to resort to trying to insult people in order to strengthen it?
Pretty disgusting attitude right there. Attack someone with a blue badge who has to drive to work. Can't be getting any lower than that. I'm out of here before I say something that attracts a mod.
I received the same rubbish statement. The audacity of me to settle down in my community with my family and pay for it with my own money. The sense being made by the anti-car brigade is very near to zero. They are now resorting to some strange sense of smugness that motorists are to be charged even more money for needing a car...and sarcasm.
I too have the blue pass, so it's not something I am fighting for to suit myself. I just hate senseless stuff like the OP of this thread which is totally unnecessary and does nothing to help anyone. Box ticking, point scoring nonsense for the green and lycra brigade.
The only badge I wave is the blue badge which will still allow me to drive my car to work and park for free. I'm sure that must piss you off. I also do not have a very convenient train on my doorstep like you do, and I bought my house 26 years ago when it was a small estate surrounded by fields.
Your pettiness has been off the scale, even for you, on this thread.
Stay classy, Flinty.
I'm not sure why you're so proud of being a badge wearing polluter. You'd concrete the planet if you could.
Personally I think anyone can be late regardless of mode of transport.
It's a ridiculous argument. Not everyone showers because they cycle. Does everyone who walks into the office have a shower. Most people cycle at a leisurely place and in normal clothes. No more effort than walking.
No, this thread was started so that flag waving anti-car brigade members like yourself could gloat.
Well, like I said earlier (and IIRC the OP himself also later acknowledged), this proposal is so full of holes and exemptions, that I wouldn't be holding my breath if I were you.
There is a reason why your great green hero ER didn't announce it himself. Have a think about why that may be.
or else, if a motorist is late, all the other motorists think 'well, he's got an excuse, traffic is awful' but don't extend that sympathy/whatever you'd call it, to cyclists.
yep, i have never heard it mentioned before. i used to get in very early when i cycled, which was more a question of traffic avoidance (not that it'd slow me down, per se, more that it's more pleasant and safer with less traffic). quite a few cyclists took the same tack.
one factor might be that if a motorist needs to be in the office for 9, they might need to leave a say 15 minute buffer to account for traffic - so would usually arrive in earlier than needed. a cyclist needing to be in the office for 9 would have a much better idea of exactly how long their commute would be, so while they're still punctual, they usually arrive later than the motorists.
in short, cyclists are like gandalf; never late, they arrive precisely when they mean to.
another thing which i remember hearing about before was issues with parking in the city centre, specifically for that mobile telco who had their head office down near the IFSC or grand canal, i think? anyway, parking was at such a premium that it was a known thing for people to arrive in the car park at half six, and actually get a snooze in their cars for half an hour or an hour before heading up into the office. again, not an issue cyclists would usually have to contend with. you'd occasionally get a five minute queue for the shower in my place.
anyway, there's lots of reports that a fitter workforce is more productive. e.g.
https://www.newswise.com/articles/active-physically-fit-employees-have-better-work-performance
A fee equal to their environmental impact or their impact on traffic. Either route will just increase the cost for motorists.
A bit distracting really...
You've seen it here first. I must be wrong though as some cyclist are no doubt conscientious enough to leave home earlier so they can have their shower and change clothes on their own time. In any case given the seemingly burning need, in the name of equality, to charge car owners a fee for parking their cars at work, maybe those showers shouldn't be free after all, as you know that which is free is wasted
No driver walked into an office late complaining about the traffic, or left early to get ahead of it. Especially the long distance ones. Or traffic on a wet day, schools back. Etc.
I meant in LV specifically. But that is also interesting.
Car commuters putting their needs disproportionately over everyone else is how this thread stated, and why these measures are being proposed.
Presumably you’ll be advocating strongly through the union for equivalent benefits for staff who can’t or don’t drive to work, particularly the lower paid staff who can’t afford a car.
IKEA just ignored it, and Fingal left them at it.
Remember when you told us with absolute certainty that the roadworks in Fairview would be removed by 1st September last?
Sounds like a real nightmare, having loads of fit, healthy staff in the organisation, lowering absence rates, health insurance costs.
Really? Because I know I've seen it come up before.
Its been mentioned in my office (though more in the context of them not cleaning the showers properly after themselves).
Having said that, I'd rather they took a shower, than didn't.
And damn anyone who doesn't have a convenient train on their doorstep that gets them to and from work in 20-25 minutes, like you do, right?
And you then call car commuters selfish.
Sounds better then storing 2 tons in pollution in that space.
In my workplace, cyclists are some of the latest to start in the morning as they have to shower, change clothes and increasingly head for breakfast before they starts the days work.
well, that's a new wrinkle! first time i've ever heard the 'cyclists start work later' argument, ever.
Now you're into the argument of the ground floor apartment dweller not wanting to pay for the maintenance of the building's lift. In my workplace, cyclists are some of the latest to start in the morning as they have to shower, change clothes and increasingly head for breakfast before they starts the days work. There's also a gym in the building and it's amazing how many of these environmentally friendly chaps have to head off for a quick endorphin release during the working day. Sure why not doesn't it save on the expensive gym membership.
As for car drivers, it's becoming unseemingly to watch the more environmentally minded EV owners fight over the limited free car chargers provided by the employer.
Some nice little benefits provided to the more environmentally conscious employees out there.
But of course all that matters is to screw, once again, the ordinary worker who just wants to park the car and do a day's work.
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