Enough of them to get him reelected?
The comparison between the guy who took down the mafia and the man today is stark.
In the midst of Giuliani's lawsuit, it appears that the plaintiff has evidence of Giuliani and Trump offering a pardons for sale scheme.
The US political structure is going to have a lot of soul searching to do when the end of Trump's road is reached.
I wonder how many more of his associates will go down?
Bannon is due.
Impeachment based on lies in order to unseat a duly elected president = treason
Millions of taxpayer money wasted on a corrupt probe based on conspiracy theories.
How many people were convicted on the basis of this investigation?
Rudy and Donald caught on tape selling pardons
This investigation had nothing to do with either of Trumps impeachments.
Talking about wasting money on conspiracy theories what about trumps own probe into the 2016 election to try prove that he won the popular vote which turned out to find absolutely no evidence to support it?
Was this not meant to prove the crime of the century?
Utter failure.
Wasn't trump supposed to lock her (Hilary) up?
I remember we used to have an official Durham thread it was that earth shattering.
Funnily enough, it’s disappeared.
Do you read the stuff you link and post?
As did a few posters who claimed it would be earth shattering
To be clear, there's nothing on tape about this I understand, but there are corroborating witnesses.
In addition to the sexual harassment, he is on tape claiming to have received a payment of a debt of 1 million and passing it to his mate so he doesn't pay tax on it, and also on tape coaching the complainant into lying to the FBI.
Boom 💥
Can't wait to see those who were trying to claim that "just because there was sufficient evidence for Trump to be found liable in court of sexual assault doesn't mean it happened" switch to "just because there wasn't sufficient evidence found in Durham's investigation doesn't mean it didn't happen!"
It's the tedious inevitability of it all...
I know quite a few New Yorkers that would tell you the guy was always a dick.
I'm surprised there isn't posters saying, "What's so bad about paying to get a pardon? They worked hard for their money, they should be allowed spend it on what they want."
I remember watching a documentary about the NY Mafia trials a while back (Netflix I think) and I was struck by the fact that certainly going by the documentary , Rudi did almost nothing in terms of the work on the case - It was a group of young Assistant DA's that did all the work, found the evidence , did the interviews and even prosecuted the cases.
Rudi did the Press conferences and very little else.
I know he was DA so he led the office and gave them the resources and support to do the work , but saying "he took down the Mafia" is a looking like more and more of a massive overstatement as we get to know more about who he actually is
Americas Mayor! 🙄
Sure, but he was a competent dick.
I watched the same documentary. I get what you say. He did play a leadership role rather than be in the trenches. But he was willing to take that role and put together and support a team capable of doing the job. that should not be underestimated.
Giuliani was always good at spotting a wave and then riding the crest of it. If he's screwed up any actual abilities in the last few years it's that particular one.
But yeah, a lot of New Yorkers never forgave him for getting rid of rent controls in the mid 90's.
You know just how deep the swamp of lies went when Taper of all people is admitting Trump has been exonerated.
According to Cultist expert Steven Hassan - Destructive cults always lie to new members about their true intentions, either through outright untruths or withholding and/or distorting vital information so it appears more tantalizing at first.
Thats a perfect and accurate description of a side who swallow every lie smear and hoax , hook line and sinker , every time with terrifying levels of gullibility.
Terrifying levels of gullibility indeed
Those Giuliani allegations give some interesting context to his cameo in the Borat film.
Exactly what I thought.
The Pardons for Profit scheme might ultimately get more attention. Depends on what she has evidence directly of.
"It's not a nothingburger - it's a burger we've already eaten."
Essentially Durham repackaged findings that were already had in a 2019 Inspector Generals report about the Russia Probe. Procedural recommendations from that report have already been implemented by the FBI for years:
In a statement to Fox News Digital, the agency touted what it said were "dozens of corrective actions" already implemented as a result of the Durham investigation.
"The conduct in 2016 and 2017 that Special Counsel Durham examined was the reason that current FBI leadership already implemented dozens of corrective actions, which have now been in place for some time. Had those reforms been in place in 2016, the missteps identified in the report could have been prevented," the FBI said.
"This report reinforces the importance of ensuring the FBI continues to do its work with the rigor, objectivity, and professionalism the American people deserve and rightly expect," it added.
In filings and other court appearances over the course of his probe, Durham at times put forward allegations and supplementary information that suggested he, too, believed the investigation into Trump was politically tainted -- though he never ultimately charged any criminal conspiracy stemming from those assertions.
The conclusion of Durham's four-year investigation stands in contrast to former special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into the ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, which resulted in indictments against 34 individuals and three Russian businesses on charges ranging from conspiracy to hacking to lying to the FBI and financial crimes. The indictments led to seven guilty pleas and five people sentenced to prison.
While Mueller's final report determined there was not sufficient evidence to charge a criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, he detailed dozens of instances of contacts between people close to Trump and his campaign and Russian nationals, and found the Russian government believed it would have benefitted from Trump's presidency and that it "worked to secure that outcome," with actions often welcomed by Trump's campaign.
