Don't you regularly post the fr Ted meme "this cow is near but the ones out there are far away"?
Bizarre that you think the turbines in the distance, in the background would appear the same level as the ones in the foreground if on a plane...
Ok. So you refuse to answer. No surprise there.
It's not complicated. Those in the distance are lower due to curvature.
Here's zoomed in footage of boats/ships on and over the horizon
You have a smart phone? binoculars? a pair of eyes? You can see this yourself on a clear day by the sea.
have you tested this? I feel you haven't tested this
if the moon flat? is the sun flat?
if the earth is flat, is there an underside to the flatness? how thick is the flat? why do the seas no run off the edge and disappear
ships "disappear" out of perspective to the naked eye and reappear with a zoom lens camera, proving I am right, I am always right and you know that
The maths proves I am right, the video evidence proves I am right and I have given multiple examples that must irate you that I am right....
Just admit it, I am right
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Then why after they appear to disappear to the naked eye, can these objects be brought back into focus with a zoom lens camera?
Does the camera see over curvature?
Can you explain why the 5th & 6th wind turbine in the video shows the platforms when they should be behind curvature?
The world record for photography is the picture taken from Pic Finestrellas from a height of 2826m to Pic Gaspard 443km away
Pic Gaspard is 3883m high, however according to the maths of the earth curve calculator, all of this should be obscured by the curvature plus an additional 1130m but it is clear in the picture that most of it is showing.........explain that? Or will you just say its a mirage?
you mean over the entire atlantic ocean? do you not think there are atmospheric conditions that will hinder that?
How much of a zoom do you think it has ?
GYHAW
Any evidence against a conspiracy can be dismissed as part of the conspiracy even if there's no evidence for that.
All staged apparently. They're all in on it.
Kind of, but not quite. What he actually said was "you can't see the curvature of a beach ball when you're 2mm above a beach ball, that sh1ts flat". Given beachballs is a strange subject for an astrophysicist, there is obviously some context involved, context that your post leaves out. Neil Degrass Tyson does not believe the earth, or the beach ball, is actually flat.
The context is that he was referrign to the stratosphere freefall jump by Felix Baumgartner. 2mm above a beachball is the reletive height Felix jumped from. That jump was sponsored and heavily marketed by Red Bull as being from the "edge of space". That was an exaggeration. The below image is from Red Bulls marketing.
The curve you see is not a real representation of hat Felix would have seen. It was cropped from a ultra wide angle lens. What you are seeing there is actually lens distortion. You so not see THAT sort of curvature at 128k feet - which is what Degrass Tyson was referring to.
The image below that I posted earlier is from a similar 114k. That is a realistic image (images from the start of the video prove it was a rectilinear lens). Much flatter than the above, without the red line, it is more or less flat. But the red line proves tis not, and Degrass Tyson wouldn't wasn't claiming it was actually perfectly flat.
For the sake of completeness. Here is a view from the observation capsule in the ISS. This is also a photo taken with a rectilinear lens (are proven by the top edge of the window). At this height (400km) you do see curvature like the Red bull image presented.
Ships disappearing over the horizon debunks everything you've said. It proves you are wrong.
You have not debunked any maths. You have made some references that simply proved you lack basic maths. The difference between linear and area for example. Please try again.
If you can't grasp a horizon bother wasting time explaining gravity.
You have not been able to point to an object that you can see behind the curve that you should not. You gave the example of a lighthouse, and I proved how you were wrong. The curvature states you should be able to see the lighthouse from Dalkey or Dun Laoghaire. The curvature says you can't see beaches in wales, and low and behold you can't - flat earthers like yourself, claim that you can.
(again, I don't actually believe you are this naive, and are just having a bit of fun)
There's nothing coherent in the conspiracy theory. There is not a single aspect that can be detailed or explained in any plausible way.
They cannot even provide a motive for such a conspiracy.
Depends on how far the object it. It scales with distance. At 5km the curvature will be almost 2 meters. At 10km it will be 7.85 meters. 20km around 31 meters (it's not linear as it's a curve). So on a clear day ships around 7km or more out should start to noticeably appear lower and lower in the water. This is due to the curvature of the Earth.
There's no "old chestnut". People who maintain the earth is flat can't coherently explain the sunset, gravity (they use "magnetism"), day/night cycles across 50% of the world's surface, any of that stuff. They don't have any model or anything. Just a picture of the azimuthal equidistant projection of the globe, which they've mistaken for a flat map.
Shure gods holding up a torch, innit.
When it's night, she just points it at Australia
Sorry, but I asked you the question first before you attempted to divert away from it. So either man up and admit that you can’t explain it because it’s nonsense, or answer it.
Closing thread while I go through the reports and catch up.
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still diverting with questions....you cannot explain why you see objects that should be behind a curve and then try go for the old chestnut of "explain the sunset"
good old Neil, he at least got something right 😂😂😂😂😂
the gas thing is the supposed flat earthers have repeatedly talked about the horizon.
on a flat earth, the horizon cannot exist, except where the earth comes to an end. admitting the basic existence of a horizon is admitting the earth is curved.
For flat-earthers, the earth is a pizza. And the sun somehow shines perfectly on one half, e.g. the below
I think a lot more of it has to do with flat earthers being convinced that they have this secret information that makes them special more than being intimidated by actual science. The conspiracy claims are more just permission for them to reject any reality that they don't understand that might threaten their illusion. And also lets them pretend to be smarter than any of those scientists.
A lot are also extreme Christians who believe in a very literal version of the bible.
it'd actually be kinda cool if someone rigged up a portal which showed what sightlines would be like if the earth was flat.
there'd be no such thing as a horizon looking across a flat ocean - technically you'd be able to see all the way (assuming clear air) to a beach in wales, for example. and all the clutter of ships and boats, etc. in the way,
Is the moon a flat disc as well?
If so then how come the light and darkness occurs in the way it does through the various moon phases?
If you stick a football, which we can all surely agree is genuinely a sphere, in a dark room and then shine a torch at it and move the torch around the room then what do you notice about how the light and dark shadows appear on the football? Is that the same as can be seen with the moon?
So if that shows that the moon is a sphere, then all other planets and the sun itself are also spherical... Why is the earth unique in being a flat disc?
As mentioned you can demonstrate all this stuff to yourself.
If you don't believe anyone or anything else but yourself, them prove it to yourself. Relatively straight forward. Plenty of clear days coming up.
"How does gravity work?"
Lolllll 😆😆😆
Google is your friend here lexy baby, though I doubt you have the capacity to understand it
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Haha good girl Markus.
The poster claimed water can't curve.
I showed how it can
Go back to bed there lickspittle
You should probably improve your reading comprehension before you could out with the "Get your facts straight" 90s catch phrase.
Meniscus and caplillary action where posts of evidence that water can curve. Lex claimed it could not. Nobody claimed the earths surface was due to either. A bit of common sense would help most conspiracy theorist.
No you claim that gravity is also a hoax? It' only a theory after all.
Come on Lex, nobody actually believes are serious. You couldn't be. But good troll work
So you have no answer to the sunset issue then. Right.
Also, if there was no curve you should be able to stand in the west coast and see the USA with a strong enough telescope. Are you saying that you can?
Neil degrass Tyson said curvature is not visible at 128k feet
then dont try to use it as a diversion tool to explain your ideals that its related to water curving
your original statement has no relevance to your idea of oceans bending
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