The bookies have slashed the odds on Glasgow now making it a firm favourite.
I have a range of weekends with free cancelleation booked
San Marino are going to have four semi finals!
Your right of course but never underestimate the stupidity of other
No because there were 2 rounds of votes and both added together at the end as people knew. Its not some evil plot. It worked as it was designed to
Watching the fan village being dismantled on the BBC News Channel right now.
Can’t they keep the stage there as a permanent reminder?
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BTS are bigger than the Beatles. Who were of course bigger than Jesus if he thinks Westlife were a big deal he’s no clue
Spot on. If we want to be serious about competing at Eurovision again it needs to be removed from RTE. I saw a program on BBC yesterday and they were looking at how other countries pick their song, and saw Sweden. Their contest is a national vote that whittles the hopefuls down to a set few, and they then sing in arena with over 20,000 fans watching live and the the entire country votes for their entry. We need to put in a serious set of entries over the next few years to show Europe we want it.
Its not just about the song itself, its the right people for the song, the performance, the set design, the clothing, the lighting. Every minute detail needs to be looked and planned properly. We do none of that, we get a few acts to perform on the late late, and vote on what we think
Look at how some of the acts last night used the stage, the lighting, props etc. We had a guy in a gold jumpsuit walk down some stairs. While our song was never a contender, it was catchy enough to get out to that semi-final. How Croatia and Serbia came out of it and we didn't says everything.
We need to go balls out on either a seriously catchy "ear worm" type song, a big ballad or a stonking rock performance. But ffs look at everything to do with what we are putting on show, and we shouldn't be afraid to throw in the odd bit of irish music culture into from now and again, but done right. Other countries are not afraid to so why should we.
I thought Australia were short changed by with the voting. Their song was better than the votes it got, never a winner, but catchy enough.
And yea, it was Finland for me, and the crowd knew it too. Weird and catchy.
I think he is smart enough to know that its not his audience, he would just look like an old man trying to gatecrash a youngsters party. He would have been totally out of place, maybe in the old eurovision days of the 80s and 90s when he was younger and the eurovision wasn't this crazy extravaganza.
Croatia qualified over us due to the nature of their entry - basically F**k Off Putin. We wouldn't have the balls for the likes of that.
It was still a big old bag of Sh1t
Last night’s greatest moment… :D
It was... a spectacle/ theatre of sorts and ours wasn't.
Absolutely !!
Pretty big backlash against the Swedish win on YouTube anyway. The final performance has 100k dislikes vs 50k likes, and some pretty bad comments too.
Finland has 76k likes vs 4.4k dislikes fwiw.
Sweden aren't the darlings of Eurovision anymore it seems!
True, that it was and yea ours had no performance level at all
Croatia got through because their song was ripping into Putin. Serbia were at least different where as or song is very bland.
I knew more about the Croatia song going into this than I did the Irish one.
I wonder how many are ripping at the jury votes as there song lost, were complaining at the public votes last year as it was all just a solidarity vote
1 thing that was interesting was at the start of the show, they showed the all time leaderboard with Ireland in 1st place and Sweden just the 1 win behind us…. I can’t ever remember seeing that at any other Eurovision!?
makes sense that they’d want to let everyone know that a Swedish win would take them to joint top in the all time wins list… and at that point they’d have probably already known that Sweden was by far and away the winner as per the jury show the previous night….. even though the jury votes were only officially announced during the live televised final…..
Seems like Sweden won the final before a ball was even kicked!!
Please go away with this stupid conspiracy stuff
When there was exclusively a fan vote, people blame block voting. When the jury vote is added, people now say that the jury did all they could to give Sweden the win
Eurovision can’t win in that sense
A minimum of ~€350k per year we spend on it. Is it worth it?
The bizarre showing of which countries won the most gave me the impression that they were saying that Sweden would match Ireland's record of 7 wins, Sweden running away with the jury vote so much so that it made is very difficult for her to be beaten and then the host saying when she won that next year is ABBA's 50th anniversary which coincides with Sweden hosting. To me that sounds like the narrative from before the contest even started was Sweden was going to win and I think the huge difference between the jury votes and the public makes it look like the juries may have been influenced in some way to ensure Sweden's win especially in the face of what turned out to be a huge public vote for Finland.
I’m inclined to agree. There was massive public attention when ABBA came back last year. I hade a feeling Eurovision want in on that given they gave ABBA their big break. The competition is just beginning to eat itself I think too with looking back at previous dinners and also wheeling on cameos from previous winners. Having all 4 ABBA members KN stage for the 50th anniversary of their Eurovision win in Stockholm and at Eurovision is crazy good publicity. After sleeping on it I can’t see how prospects like this weren’t talked up around the juries. It’s like a well written script and a great bow out finally for ABBA. Back where they started 50 years on having come from obscurity to conquer the world and it’s all come full circle for a glorious final appearance. If you’re opening up voting to tge wider works, there’s no better platform than that to tell everyone everywhere you’ve arrived. It’s just a pity the winning song didn’t line up to tge potential. Sweden are good at Eurovision and have a hugely successful music and production industry in general but they really sent a mid table entry this year.
I see the BBC are getting a lot of kudos for the production but I thought the sound quality was poor for a lot of the tracks including the UK.
Can't even remember the Finnish song just some lad with green nails breaking out of a box.
Swedish song was the best song, so much so that I voted for it, Jurys thought it was great and a large amount of the public vote. It's a song contest and the best song won!
My opinion is Yes. It is of nation pride. Not everything needs a payback.
There were a few good songs from last night.
- Switzerland
- Belgium
- Norway
What I don't get is that the juries is supposed to be all spaced out amongst the different countries yet the majority of the jury's gave Sweden their 12 points. Not all of the jurys.
I think the 12 points allocation should have been more varied and spaced out amongst more countries. I mean like Sweden wasn't all that different or spectacular either.
Are they still pretending this is a song contest? It's been a sexuality contest for years now!
Every year without fail when they are doing the jury votes I always think 'How the f*ck is that sh1te doing so well' and one of the only songs I actually like sitting at the bottom with nothing.
Not sure if there is a perfect system, but I wouldn't miss the juries if they get rid of them.
Juries or no juries, public vote or no public vote, there is never going to be a system that will be 100% fair, free from political voting or free from outside influences. The only option would be making it completely anonymous in the sense that we don't know which song is from which country until after the voting is completed. Even that probably wouldn't work very well as I am sure it will be leaked ahead of time what song belongs to which country. We had these discussions years ago and the EBU said they would publish the names of all the jurors before the contest to make it as transparent as possible which didn't seem to happen. So I think the juries should be scrapped.
The criteria for the juries.
The Swedish wan could shout in fairness. Not sure the other three were particularly impressive.
As regards Ireland and the eurovision there is a danger that we go from one extreme to the other. On the one hand we took it for granted for too long and assumed that any old act would do because we were eurovision royalty, then we sent acts that we thought that the eurovision people would go for simply because they mimicked previous successful acts, in between we also sent trad acts and previous winners like niamh kavanagh, none of these worked.
However now it seems we could be going the other way and taking it way too seriously, going all in with stage performance and everything and still falling short because it will be too earnest and serious. I think there is no point in taking this competition too seriously because anything wacky and out there can be successful in it. I think just opening it up again to a proper song contest again and letting the public vote decide who goes forward should be way to go. We don't know what acts were whittled down by RTE before they came to their 6 finalists for the LLS, thats the factor that needs to go. Don't let RTE be the arbiters of what our entries are as they have got it so wrong for so long.
At the same time don't expect too much either , remember other countries have also not been successful in getting their entries to the final either ,last night both POland and Austria only reached the final for the first time in 5 years. We cannot be expecting too much from this. We just need to go with the flow and stop being overly concerned with having to do well every year
A hilarious moment from Eurovision voting back in 2019!
