In Dublin this will affect civil and public servants the most, which is why it hasn't been implemented. It's a great idea though......
Not everyone is smartphone saavy let alone have a proper decent internet connection. Stop putting up barriers, make it simple - park and ride as absolutely easy as possible. No farting around with coin machines or apps - I've a hard physical days work to do and have little concern about whether some jumped up greenie behind a keyboard is getting their justification for existence. Heck, I could be a tradesman building the Metro or a Luas extension.
This is why any normal rational thinking person opines that the "greens" are absolute out and out gobdaws. The greens for everything they have done have never, ever made one thing simpler in life for the ordinary Joe. You're a crowd of obstructionists and misery merchants.
I wouldn't fret about it. It's unlikely to change for a long time.
There's an app. No need to bollix around with a coin machine.
Its an unreasonable ask. I'm a prospective rail/bus customer considering nulling the last part of my journey in car. Sell me the alternative. A cheap fare in to the City Centre on a frequent service is appealing, but a charge for parking the car is the "Sorry, I'm out" to quote Dragon's Den. I'm time-strapped as it is and now you want me to bollix around with a coin machine at 7.35am in the pissing rain. Fook off.
No oversight on my part. I didn't forget anything.
Build more spaces. They can build multi-storey car parks in Dundrum SC to attract people to purchase non-essential Chinese tack in shops, it can be argued that proper free parking for commuters to complete the last leg of their commute is a no-brainer.
Think!
Seems bit of an oversight to forget to tell them the full message and where they can park then. Not that I think most here will even try it.
€3.50 a day doesn't seem unreasonable so.
Isn't the point there isn't enough space....
It may surprise you that a fair proportionate of commuters clogging your precious city dirt tracks are in excess of an hours walk/cycle to their local rail station and alot of those have to bring equipment with them to work - not everyone commuting is bringing a laptop or an iPad to carry out their daily work.
I seen an article earlier this week where Carlow County Council slapped a lot of cars with tickets for having the audacity to commute via car pooling and park their cars at an M9 exit (safely). Outrage as Carlow car-poolers hit with €80 fines for parking just off M9 while none appear to have been issued in Kilkenny - so far (kclr96fm.com)
Absolute suited up sucmbag who instructed that those workers be whacked like that.
You think you'll have a driveway...
True. I just didn't want people turning up at a full red cow car park because they read on here that it was always empty.
It may surprise you but plenty of people walk to their local train station.
Build. More. Spaces.
If the objective is to reduce the amount of cars entering the city centre then it needs to be done. Otherwise, you're just heaping costs upon employees making their commute for the fits and giggles - which is what I suspect is what is happening.
Big. Fcuk. Off. Car. Parks. Beside. Bus. And. Train. Stations. Please? Now?
Otherwise continue as we are.
Probably in years to come you’ll see a driveway tax..
Probably in years to come you’ll see it made illegal for a business to offer free parking…. Cars will have some sort of chip that gets scanned as you enter Blanchardstown shopping centre and the likes… because 45- 55 kilograms of shopping is ohhh so easy for everyone on ohhh so piss poor unreliable, overcrowded and often non existent public transport….
That's what happened with the free ev charging at the stations.
There has to be some charge. If it was free everyone would drive to the station and there wouldn't be enough spaces for people.
... and to use the P&R at Cheeverstown...
I see what you mean. 3.50 puts you off. But cost of running a car which is 10 times that doesn't. Makes sense.
Happen to follow Luas on twitter even though I don't use it that often.
Anyway on at least two days this week I saw them tweet that the Red Cow was full.
Lexilip train station is 3.50 per day or 11 euro for a week!
Therein lies the problem. It should be free to park in that train station as long as you are purchasing a train ride ticket into the city and back out. Right there is the disincentive to use the train. FFS.
If some loola wants to park there and not take the train, a €1000 illegal parking ticket will nip any prospective problem in the bud.
I see you read the linked article thoroughly.
But things have changed now. Not everyone is working in the city on the same day so trains are not packed as much.
If I had to draw up a list of things I had to put up with when I lived in Dublin 1 (never drove during this time), cars would not be on that list.
Used to work in Leixlip and I was glad as hell I was going in the opposite direction to everyone else. Inbound trains packed like sardines.
But that works both ways, why should the people that live in the area where you work, put up with the cars?
I think if this is for the city only its a good idea. Now they will need to improve the bus service but we have good park and rides for the luas, red cow is never full!! Lexilip train station is 3.50 per day or 11 euro for a week!
Its basically a congestion charge.
If someone cannot afford to live in walking distance to their place of work, much less on a bus route, why should they be (even potentially) slapped with additional costs on top of what they already pay to be able to commute to work? Why should someone be punished just for living further out from the city where they can afford to
It really is education. You want to drive into somewhere where you can't fit, and disproportionality adversely affect everyone else.
It's not a question of education; one side claims that private transportation is only for the middle/higher earners, that folks should cycle and use busses and admonishing folk for "deciding to live in the middle of nowhere" while still expecting an acceptable level of (presently non-existent, inconvenient or impractical) public transport alternatives.
The other side is dealing with the realities of: Living in the cities or suburbs (particularly Dublin) where accommodation in reasonable distance of a workplace is unaffordable, even living in areas where there's reliable high-speed broadband is becoming unaffordable and affordable areas to live are unserved by public transport, let alone reliable public transport options.
I recall a village in Germany, every house within a 5-10min walk from the train station is north of 300,000€ and only becomes reasonably affordable once you're 15-20km away at which point you'd be taking a car to get to the train station, so you may as well take it all the way to the city.
The issue proposed here, disproportionately hurts those who depend on a car, not those who choose it out of preference
Generally it's not the area of the people commuting by car to it.
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