On paper a glide bomb is not too difficult to intercept. They're slow-ish and have a predictable-ish trajectory. The Russian ones have a big radar cross-section.
Ukraine don't seem to have any systems well-suited to the purpose. A missile based system is not economical given how cheap and numerous glide-bombs can be. An auto-cannon type system is more appropriate. USA's C-RAM can surely shoot down glide bombs. But then you've got limited range/coverage so you need a lot of systems.
By all accounts Russia are using 20 daily, a mix of dedicated glide-bombs and retro-fits. The number is expected to go up. We'll have to see what Ukraine's response / counter is.
Did you say 'meat grinder'?
Radar does not measure mass. The #1 influencing factor is radar cross section, of which a missile will be significantly smaller than a fiberglass glider.
Also I never said anything about how detectable a glide bomb is in its own right, only that it is less detectable than a ballistic trajectory missile, which is true.
On the flanks, the enemy undertook counterattacking actions, as a result of which, according to Yevgeny Prigozhin, units of the 72nd brigade of the Russian Defense Ministry left their positions southwest of the city.
Another small position abandoned by the Russians and interesting that it once again it happened to the regular Russian army, and not Wagner.
Don’t call it an unprovoked war
dude looked ready to jump out of his chair so fast you wonder why he’s not on the front line with the cannon fodder he looks itching to fight.
More Orc reservists to be trained up. The annual great waste of human life continues.
Off you go and find pages and pages as you claimed,
If not put it down to you making things up shall we ,
Extraordinary footage, note the number of corpses he has to step over.
They have limited gun based systems too but No C-Rams ,and very much limited air defense systems at the front lines,
Seen a British stormer air defense system mounted on a humvee getting taken out by a lancet drone recently ,so no system is perfect,
In the case of a fibreglass glider, it's the metal bits that are most responsible for the radar return, which is why I mentioned them, not the surfce area of fiberglass, which is almost transparent to radar.
...until some of us were invited by the military and they could tell exactly where we had been. They said a glider is about as visible as a large bird, but faster, so it can readily be identified on radar
Lancets are proving effective for Russia (at taking out Ukrainian equipment). The operators seem disciplined and go after high-value targets.
Based on the amount of videos every day, they don't have any shortage of them either.
The poster was gonna throw eggs at the Russians, then he was gonna fight mayo exile, in the end we get a one star review for an Irish landscape company some Russian lad works for! True internet warrior stuff!
Fair play on the drone operator to go to the effort to lead him over to safety. You want to encourage the Russians to surrender, but it really looks like he had to put a lot of time into herding this guy over to them.
I never said glide bombs can't be detected on radar, my issue is with assuming because you get a radar return that it can be easily shot down. By easy, I don't mean having a patriot battery right on the frontline.
I'm talking in practical terms.
No they don't and Ukraine hasn't got an answer for them,the stormer it's Self I mentioned above is a short range air defense system but couldn't protect itself despite being static and not moving through open ground
i was looking forward to the tank towing contest...maybe next year...are they bentley convertables the big general got driven around in?
Have you heard about counter battery artillery radar?how do you think they are able to detect incoming artillery shells?
Because it's specifically designed to but even at that they aren't always perfect
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In a couple of months, we went from:
"Patriot systems are too complicated to use for Ukrainians" to
"Ukrainians are the first in history to shoot down an air-launched ballistic missile"
Radar is a radar,its about frequencies,wavelenght,range and power behind it
Some are designed for detection, others are for target tracking and fire control
Anything can be detected and shot down
This seems to happen quite a bit
Counter battery radars need to detect incoming fire at certain altitudes which they can give give a fire options but only in optimal conditions ,they won't detect a drone or low level glide weapons munitions, hence the term under the radar
Another factor in radar detection is the speed of an object. Many systems have software that will filter out objects depending on their speed. These are called velocity gates and are set depending on what you want to detect. It’s the reason that the NORAD radars didn’t originally detect those Chinese balloons (moving too slow) until someone tweaked the software.
They do not measure mass from radar as its almost impossible to ascertain using radar alone.
You can measure approximate size (radar cross section) but not mass. Speed and acceleration can be determined by positional change and doppler effects. Mass cannot be measured.
bit of a step up from the old zil they used to use...just saw that clip with the wagner guy,didnt know even gazprom had their own mercenaries? what a fcuked up country...how many seperete groups of these do they have?
No but any radar that can detect air threats and drones can
exactly and also why Patriot changed their software to face hypersonic missiles
Normally what burden of proof etc. looks like when making a contentious argument.
Mass is just a blip on the radar screen,thats all you need to see
mass != cross section
A spherical 100 kg mass of gold and a spherical 100 kg mass of helium have very differently portioned cross sectional areas.
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