There are two separate charges so technically yes he could be found liable for one but not the other.
But they are so intrinsically linked it's hard to see how you could get a split result.
If he did rape her , then him calling her a liar is defamation , if he didn't rape her then surely it wouldn't be defamation to call her a liar/crazy etc. ??
and as if by magic the great orange baffoon is doubling down just as the judge is giving the jury instructions...
Media has been predicting for days now that Trump would try to do that.
They extended him every courtesy in this trial. At more than one turn he's tried to pull optics like this when it was not warranted (eg. filibustering on DNA evidence)
They have made the verdict form public so what they are to actually answer.
It is going to be intriguing to see how long they take I have not seen too much along the lines of expected time to deliberate.
If he is found liable can she hit him again for his latest posts?
That's why the Judge gave him that one final chance over the week-end.
It was clear Trump was attempting to set up the "I wanted to give evidence but I wasn't allowed" angle , but the Judge giving him that opportunity following his Ireland has taken the legs from that angle, legally speaking at least.
The deeply uninformed MAGA's will believe him though and send him money to "fight this injustice" , but any thoughts he might have had for a legal challenge on this are gone.
That's got to one is not the most out there things I have read on boards
'He didn't do it'
'Even if he did do it it's not illegal'
'Even if it is illegal he "won't be convicted"' (Eskimohunt/Rapidash)
'Even if he is convicted well I uh'
First time Eskimo hunting?
He'll ragequit the thread next.
Oh god no actually I had not seen him for a while and wondering where he was click into a thread and one of the first posts I see was him under his new name but that one has to be up there
Liz Cheney drops new ad to air on CNN during Trump's CNN Town Hall:
LIZ CHENEY: Donald Trump is the only president in American history who has refused to guarantee the peaceful transfer of power.
[BRET BAIER: Joe Biden will win to become the president of the United States.]
LIZ CHENEY: He lost the election and he knew it. He betrayed millions of Americans by telling them the election was stolen.
[TRUMP: We will stop the steal!]
LIZ CHENEY: He ignored the rulings of dozens of courts. Rather than accept his defeat, he mobilized a mob to come to Washington and march on the Capitol.
Then he watched on television while the mob attacked law enforcement, invaded the Capitol and hunted the vice president.
[TRUMP RIOTERS: HANG MIKE PENCE! HANG MIKE PENCE! HANG MIKE PENCE!]
LIZ CHENEY: He refused for 3 hours to tell the mob to leave. There has never been a greater dereliction of duty by any president.
Trump was warned repeatedly that his plans for January 6 were illegal. He didn’t care. And today, he celebrates those who attacked our Capitol. Donald Trump has proven he is unfit for office.
Donald Trump is a risk America can never take again.
[NARRATOR: The Great Task is responsible for the content of this advertising.]
No he will go on to another topic and then pretend we are mis quoting
"You think I don't see your sleight of hand" etc.
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Watching live now, verdict due any moment now. Hopes not high, but will see.
What channel?
oh boy
Knowing Trump's luck, maybe they'll acquit him?
Guilty on sexual abuse charge.
Not guilty on rape charge.
And now his "people" will be back here claiming this as a victory.....
Guilty of sexual abuse. Trump the sex offender.
2 million awarded
Liable 2 million
$2 Million!
I can see why they didn't stretch to finding him on the rape (trump successfully withheld DNA evidence), but it still kinda sucks they downgraded it to sexual battery.
Trump liable of battery (jury Trump sexually abused Carroll) and defamation.
Any chance this could finally put a nail in the coffin of the oompa loompa King and stop him from getting the Presidency again?
Are we allowed to continually append "the sex offender" to Trump's name now? Mods please advise.
No.
Up to $5M when you stack all the fines on him. Per ABC News live
So just for the record for a certain poster
Convictions of sexual assault
Trump 1
Clinton 0
Suffice to say, we can definitively call that 'well established' now
So apparently they won't let you grab them by the pussy when you're famous.
Who would have thunk it??
Every Trump defeat makes his devotee's worship him all the more.
This will likely just be a badge of honour.
