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You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the Left - read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Apparently, their are drags kings, just not as many. I have no idea why not.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    No, that's just two posters to be fair - him and Dyr.

    I don't go in for this generalisation of "the right" - it's just as devisive as posters using "The Left....". There are many rational and interesting right-wing posters around.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    You have a habit of doing this schtick where you bring in nonsensical tangents nobody here had anything to do with and cry about the “hypocrisy of it all” etc.

    Dont know what you’re talking about not whom you spoke to about it. Yell at a cloud? “I know about this far flung incident and you don’t, hypocrite” it’s so banal - did you bother to mention it here anywhere at all last month then? Link?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    That may be true, it's not true about those two in particular though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    You are 100% right.

    I don't believe that 100% of parents know what's 100% best for their kids, thankfully neither does the state, anywhere in the world. It's why we have protection policies to protect parents from their kids. Before you blow a gasket, some people will think there's no harm in smoking in a car with a child present. The state disagrees, so it's illegal. Some people rule over their children and make utterly awful choices. That's a fact.

    For your information, every single book has educational value. Literally every one. How much is up for interpretation, but regardless of what people say, no one has been made stupider from reading a book (even if it feels like it sometimes). I do love how you can tell me, that I would have no issue with a book being removed if I had an issue with the book,. Can you please provide ANYTHING to back up this assertion, or remove it? Because it's utter nonsense.

    I do use the word banned, as the books are banned from the schools. Not everyone has the money to buy books btw.


    Now, please provide any kind of evidence that shows:

    "The irony of course if any books were removed that you had an issue with, you see no issue at all with this"

    Or retract the statement.



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  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    For sure, the footage went viral on social media last month.

    Just because she holds views opposed to far-left orthodoxy, she was mobbed and quite clearly would have been killed if it weren't for security.

    No freedom of speech. Just violence and threats toward women.

    Is this the relationship that far-left activists want to have with the general population?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Hang on - what happened to the alleged misgendering at Starbucks tweet you were on about an hour aog? Not to mention drag queen story time you seemed to think no one was conflating with burlesgue acts and pantomime, despie not being able to confirm whether nor not you knew the difference...?

    Why bother entertaining you when you'll back down and throw up another topic in about twnety minutes?

    You're like a kitten with ADHD

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    I think they're playing Right Wing Bingo.

    Can we talk about the dangers of immigration next (but only in the context of dark skinned people)?



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Children should not be taught sexualised content irrespective of whether the content is straight or gay.

    If said books or content are part of the curriculum or available texts for use, whether subtle or not, they should be removed accordingly.

    I'm still interested to learn whether you believe the mob behaviour of activists against Posie Parker in New Zealand was acceptable?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    So all gay content is subtly sexual?

    Is that why you didn’t name a single example of a gay book that survived the purge?

    You ignored my previous post again I see. Typical and proves everything I and others have said about you.



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  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No. What I said was very clear.

    Children should not be taught sexualised content irrespective of whether the content is straight or gay.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    It was not very clear that’s why I asked a clarifying question. Don’t engage in Argumentum ad lapidem 🤡

    I see you cannot name a single book mentioning gay anything that survived the purge. Proves the point I and others have made.



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You seem to be the only one arguing in favour of the position that sexualised content should still be available on children's school curriculums, unless I'm mistaken?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭Burty330


    So all gay content is subtly sexual?

    Correct. It if not subtly sexual the kids will just mistake two boys or two girls as friends. So the author has to make the content sexual to some degree to get the message through. Many books in circulation have taken certain content to extremes. Now parents can't and simply don't want to trust it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Ignored my post again:

    “So all gay content is subtly sexual?”

    Is that why you didn’t name a single example of a gay book that survived the purge?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    hahaha. And if they banned Sleeping Beauty, I would think you would be one of the first giving out about, "political correctness gone mad" or somesuch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal



    Correct. It if not subtly sexual the kids will just mistake two boys or two girls as friends. So the author has to make the content sexual to some degree to get the message through.

    please elaborate what was sexual about And Tango Makes Three?



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Whether we like it or not, social conservatives exist in the United States. I don't agree with all of their positions, in fact very few. And speaking as a gay person myself, I am happy to co-exist with people who have fundamentally different views on identity and sexuality compared to me. I wouldn't seek to change their minds, nor would I lecture them about how they should raise their kids. To live in a free society means accepting that not everyone has the same moral and social views. I'm cool with that.

    Let's not forget that most Muslim countries are also socially conservative and hold similarly old fashioned views on homosexuality and other matters relating to women. But I've noticed that the same people who condemn the Christian social conservatives in the United States, calling them fascists and so on, never say a word about Muslim countries that adopt even harsher social conservative views and punishments for homosexuality and women's rights.

    And that hypocrisy on the far-left is glaring.

    In fact, when you point to these social conservative views of Muslim-majority countries, the label of racism is invariably tarred across one's forehead.

    So again, far-left activism is all over the place when it comes to their moral and political outlook.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    This was quite the tangential attempt at filibuster which only proves my point entirely.

    You can’t seemingly argue any content that is LGB or otherwise is not sexual (warped issue on your end) so rather than admit that you just go into a sidebar of “well I don’t like living in this state of oppression as a gay man but at least it’s not Saudi Arabia”

    Stockholm Syndrome. Conservatives are trying to erase the LGB or otherwise community and you say eh this is fine I will erase myself from existence for them.



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Homosexuality is illegal in 70 countries and punishable by death in 13 countries.

    Yet you want to focus your ire on the United States, where you are free to be LGBT, because one of its states has decided to remove sexualised content from young children's school curriculum.

    If the people banning a couple of books in Florida are "fascists", then presumably all those 70 countries are fascistic too?

    Which of course they're not. But do you at least see the inconsistency here?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    You were happy to entertain the Florida angle for the last few pages but now when cornered you want to whataboutism to literally anywhere else, as a last ditch attempt to avoid answering my questions or conceding the points I’ve incontrovertibly demonstrated. Love it.

    unfortunately for you this is a dangers from the left thread not a thread about the dangers of the right ie. The countries banning you from being gay or not being killed there while gay.



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why is it "fascistic" to be a Christian social conservative, but acceptable to be a Muslim with exactly the same social conservative views and not be a fascist?

    What is the difference?



  • Posts: 522 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Keeping sexual content away from kids is not homophobic. It would only be homophobic is they explicitly banned homosexual content. They’ve banned all sexually explicit content below a certain age.

    The question then is why those pushing for sexuality explicit content to be thought to kids seem to only be pushing for homosexual or transsexual content to be thought to kids. What’s the reason for that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Lol this is nothing at all what we were discussing. Did I break you?

    Just give one example any example of a book mentioning gays or gay characters etc. that didn’t get swept up in the book ban. One?

    Since clearly you cannot we must conclude it was not a ban on sexual content but a ban on discussing the gay identity period.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Can US states pass laws prohibiting homosexuality, or ar they blocked by the Federal State? Honest question.

    In any case, I'd argue there's so much homophobia in a lot of US states, it's impossibe to freely express yourself as gay or trans. In some places you can even murder gay/trans people and get aquitted if you claims they were hitting on you.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    What was sexually explicit about And Tango Males Three? 😶



  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You seem to be missing the point.

    Social conservatives, of which there are many in the United States, do not want their children exposed to particular topics. That's their right as parents, whether we agree or disagree with it.

    They are entitled to raise their children as they wish, even if that means choosing not to read certain books to their children.

    You don't have a problem with this when it comes to Muslim conservatives, but are outraged only when Christian conservatives make this decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    You’re admitting to my point. That it’s not about banning explicit content it’s about banning gay content. All you’re telling me is you accept it because you’ve got Stockholm syndrome.

    They are entitled to raise their children as they wish

    nope this blanket statement doesn’t hold. They are not entitled to raise their children into human trafficking for example as with a 1 year old victim in the Ian Watkins case.



  • Posts: 522 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Teach your kids what you want. Stay away from other peoples kids.



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  • Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Human trafficking is illegal, that's why.

    It's not illegal for a parent to choose not to read a book to a child.

    That's pretty much it in a nutshell.



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