Yeah, but would you not think it would be better to allow them to have their wee parade and hold up a sign like this at a counter protest: i.e. confuse the f**k out of them. I always think ridicule is the best response to people like this.
I recall the convoy of cars with Russian flags and Z symbols on the motorway last year, Russian and Serbians here protesting against the possibility of Ireland joining NATO, this recent Victory day parade.
Have there been any Russians here protesting against the invasion?
AA in action
I wonder if it dawns on them at all, that they are putting on that disgracful display of knuckle dragging, in a nation where their only punshment for this is the scorn of society. But...if any of us adorned our own cars with Ukraine flags or symbols and paraded around a town in Russia...how many seconds would that parade survive before the local cops were all over it.
We're talking about a country that will even punish the parents of children who might just crayon a Ukraine flag in thier homework in the hope of peace.
These photos should be saved and these people should be reminded now and in the future years of their choice, by putting this photo beside the images of those innocents that the Russians have murdered in this conflict. Let them be forever compared to this, in the hope that some of them might develop an once of shame.
What did you want then? The Russian Z-Mob to have their shenanigans banned and then be allowed to scream about Western oppression & censorship? Let them have at it IMO. Either ignore them or hold a counter-protest. Did you bring any eggs btw?
I'd say it was a carefully curated event for agents and handlers only
I’d be curious as to how many of the pro-Russia posters here were at the genocidal army celebrations. Anyone care to admit their presence?
I can understand it if they lived through the chaos of the 1990's. Near overnight Russia for the ordinary Russian went from pretty stable to near societal collapse, from a secure enough trajectory of school, college for many & a "job for life" to destitution for an awful lot of people especially in the urban areas. Their national and personal assets pillaged by oligarchs who became unimaginably wealthy and powerful princelings. On top of the whole existential thing of their once mighty Soviet Union failing and falling.
Then putin comes along and things start to change. He nationalises the oligarchs, gets rid of the more obvious ones, keeps the ones he can control and gets a handle on the flood of cash and resources out of the country and some of the scraps from the master's table start to get to the people and they see this. He also gives them back their pride, rejigs their religiious faith to his purposes(and religious Russians tend to be very religious) and in essence brings back Tsardom(which many had a sentimental hankering for). Still, the difference for the average urban Russian between say 1998 and 2018 is stark and it's a positive one for most. Of course he makes sure they know all this and his role is hightened by his spin.
If putin had retired or died in say 2010, yes there would have been a lot of questions around him, but equally a fair number of commentators outside Russia would have said on balance he was overall positive for Russia*. The problem is he didn't and had no more tricks in his box for the future of Russia. It's been set as an economy of flogging resources ruled by boyars and a Tsar. "Easy" cash, but other industries never really went beyond very local and even their resource selling was lazy. For all their talk of "friends" in the east and BRICS, where did nearly all their pipelines go? West. They didn't even bother to plan that ahead.
That would take a very different leadership to putin and in many ways a mindset change for Russia herself. And time of course. They should be as well off as Scandi nations, but...
*Bellendshenko in Belarus is not dissimilar. He navigated the early days of post Soviet collapse pretty well and still retains support among those over 40 for it. And then he went daft. As dictators tend to do.
How many people were there to counter protest? Just you?
It still looks like I was right, most people do not care about Russians having their V day celebrations
Lol. This aged well. I hope the below crowd understands why I dont engage in any discussion with them. Their moral compass is build in the same country as the 'give me a tow' tank parody Armata
looking forward to Putin's double's speech.
19 hours left for Russia to take Bakhmut for Victory Day.
So they tear up their passports, dump their uniforms and booby trap the area and then rotate out for another crew?
Is there a new passport and new uniform waiting for them and do they give the new troops a map of the booby traps or is it like a wee hazing they do?
Loosening the salt shaker lid, I get, leaving tripmines for the new crew, I don't get.
Certainly doesn't look like looting and leaving.
"Russia is a great country we just choose to live elsewhere"
Why would any Russia appreciate a man who has stolen their national recourses and enriched himself? Russia is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. It is in decline, it is a poor country, with an economy about 4 times that of Bangladesh. A GDP of about $12,500 while the super rich live have everything. Putin could have made it a rich country but instead of investing in his people, he and his friends have stolen as much as they can. Why would anyone appreciate that?
This happens all the time. Reports of Russians looting and leaving a town. It's not a withdrawal though, it's simply a rotation of a new unit into an area.
What a sorry sight.
More from kildare
Russian media report they hit the Shkolny airfield....
Fair few reports on Odesa now.
Supposed strikes Strikes on bridges and ammo dumps. I'm sure more will become clear by morning.
??? Ukrainian media report explosion in Odesa, widespread air raid alerts | Reuters
Best wait for a source other than Russian media!
Another report on a hit in Odesa
Which ever explanation turns out to be the correct one, it sure as hell will not calm the nerves of Russians in any part of Ukraine, never mind Melitopol. Throwing away passports and changing out of uniforms etc, is one serious step to take under any circumstances.
who the hell is fact checking over there
Crap,
Something big hit in Odesa
Multiple Air raid warnings and explosions been reported over Southern Ukraine
Like i said,depending on rockets used
And GPS jamming isnt really that complicated
It could be a simple software issue for what we know
And if they dont use kalman filters,its most likely even worse accuracy then predicted.
Russians have been known in the past to jam even civilian airliners in Finland in the past,but they also have backups.
I dont know how they work againt spoofing though,but thats also easily adjusted to software
Another option is to use Galileo,the European system
Polish Border Guards aircraft lost control and altitude after an Orc SU-35 flew within 5m of it's nose using it's wake turbulence as a weapon.
The current situation in Ukraine is largely due to decades of the west not responding to provocations and turning the other cheek every time. You'd think the lesson might have been learned by now.
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