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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    It's not just my opinion.

    “We are approaching the point that private military company Wagner is running out, and private military company Wagner, in some short time, will cease to exist,” Prigozhin said. “We’ll go into history — but it’s all right, such things happen.”

    They are getting obliterated, and the more they do the more desperate he gets.





  • Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    1. 1980s Soviet cruise missiles are "precision" by 1980s Soviet standards. The earliest KH-55 revision had an accuracy up to 100m - which is fine if a nuke is on board. If you try to use one to perform a modern precision strike with conventional warhead... they're no good. For example trying to take out a specific building, or the support of a bridge.. if you are 100m away then you might as well not bother.
    2. They use inertial guidance in conjunction with other guidance systems. 1980s intertial guidance run off mechanical gyros, any friction in the system will reduce the accuracy. A missile sitting around in storage goes bad due to lubricants congealing, gaskets rotting, caps going bad etc.

    The ones that Russia are loading with ballast and using as decoys... Russia has determined that they are no good for anything else. It's that simple.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,301 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Deleted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Still are, I think the Brits did a test on a Vickers (which was based on the Maxim) where they fired it non stop for seven days and it was still operational at the end

    Those water cooled machine guns were built to last, which is why they'd be prohibitive to produce now, lot of man hours went into them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Kremlin saying that Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin last night with 2 drones over the Kremlin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Looks like someone let off a smoke bomb from the video.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Thinking about it , when russia fails.. both in their specisl military operation in Ukraine, and as a state there could well be a huge increase in the wagners of this world ..

    There'll be no shortage of russian federation military veterans - looking for either an income / career or just a way out of their small town / small territory lives,

    And there'll likely be an increase in demand ,wether from breakaway Ru states, or Russian strong men looking to protect what theyve got ..

    Plus the african connections , - wagner knows how the international game works.

    And gets paid ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,251 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Can be fired non stop for days at a time , if youve the water and ammo ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Supposedly from the Kremlin last night be interesting to see what the reply will be





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,792 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    It's possible Yes, but there has been a few social media posts over the last while saying some is coming on the 9th ,

    But if could also be a way of escalation by now telling the Russian people terrorists have attacked the capital..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,087 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    It’s hard to know if it’s a false flag or not. In one sense it’s really embarrassing for them to release that the Kremlin was hit(the heart of Putins power so easily hit by a drone) but perhaps they’re so desperate/worried about what’s to come they’ll do anything to try and rally the war effort



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm sure some of you subscribe to Daniil Orain's YouTube channel "1420" where he gathers the opinions of ordinary (mostly urban) Russians on current affairs. What's striking is how the views of even the younger, more educated Russians appear to have hardened over the last year. 

    A year ago he posed the question "Do you think the world hates Russia?". Among the respondents there's a general belief that for the most part Russians aren't hated, and if they are hated, it's due to the special operation. There's an unspoken skepticism about the war among younger people, and a desire for it to end.


    A year later Orain asks a very similar question: "Why is every country against us?". The prevalent view is that the West has always been envious of Russia, its land, resources and freedoms. There's almost universal support for Russian foreign policy and the war, and a desire for Russia to prevail in Ukraine, to stand up to the US and to orient itself away from the west. 


    What's really noticeable in the more recent vox pops from 1420 is the the common language, and increased use of terms like "hegemony" and "imperialism" among young people when discussing the US. This suggests that the intensive coordinated propaganda campaigns on social media media over the last year have successfully instilled the view that the war in Ukraine is existential for Russia. A revolution from within has never seemed less likely. This just reinforces my view that entertaining the idea of a negotiated settlement to the war in the short or medium term, regardless of the outcome of the Spring counteroffensive, is pointless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,792 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Wagner claims Counter Offensive has started.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    I imagine so the person who just so happened to filming at that exact time can say he was filming the 2 lads climbing up to "check the flag".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Being hearing that since Saturday at least and still no major movements reported anywhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    If this is Ukraine, it's a terrible idea. Achieves nothing militarily and will harden Russian public opinion. Also gives Russia an excuse to strike back in kind.

    Seems more likely to be a Russian false flag, we will see.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,117 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It would seem far more likely to be Russian dissidents than a "false flag". Russia doesn't need an excuse to strike back in kind.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭Cordell


    The typical Russian false flag would be a strike on some civilian building like an apartment block or school or similar. This would be some humiliating false flag, so I don't think it is. It may not achieve much military wise, but it's not like Rusia needs any reason to strike, so they just went for the message this strike sends.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,895 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Russia needs an excuse to strike back?

    If Putin is that paranoid, it will be interesting to see if he appears for the May parade in person or maybe (if they find a working one) a tank he can sit in to drive by. Point being if he continues on as 'normal' it was a false flag, if he doesn't appear in the Kremlin as per some regular schedule, then it wasn't a false flag. Other option being domestic opposition.

    It's certainly embarrassing, especially after seeing all the photos and videos of AA being lifted onto buildings in Moscow.



  • Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The explosion looks theatrical, like black powder or something from a firework. Definitely not high-explosive anyway.

    We can't infer much from that, other than maybe it was something symbolic and not meant to do damage. Or else it's someone without access to a proper explosive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,337 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    This was reported in the Guardian yesterday

    They are getting beyond desperate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭bennyineire




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    If Ukraine have parked drones in Moscow, they know exactly where Vlad will be on the 9th of May. It would only take one dropper drone and a grenade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Bakhmut is 85% taken by the Red Army now.


    It won't be much left, that maybe weeks though or longer.


    At that the Ukrainian forces will be only falling back a short distance, and it will be replayed again in Chasiv yar and other towns a few miles near by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,213 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Not jealous, terrified. That's the real reason Putin went to war. He would be unable to control a Russia that lived beside a free and democratic Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I'd say the next two weeks is crucial, Russia are consolidating their positions ,latest I read coming from Ukraine they still think there's 25,000 Russians in bakhmut backed up with tanks and vehicles, but there's not a lot to hold Ukraine wise yes it's a Russian meat grinder but the Ukrainans are losing numbers too ,


    The kicker here for me is Russia has devoted more men and effort in taking bakhmut than they did trying to hold karkhiv and Kherson ,makes zero sense to me



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,401 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    another angle, really does look like this was some sort of stunt.



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