For the kind of money they are asking, this is what id expect, not a very nice house on an ok site with no views
Nowhere near being too shabby, at all, under any circumstances.
That's some house.
I think it has to have the wankiest blurb ever written though!
'Down a bucolic lane with high hedgerows off Howth’s exclusive Ceanchor road stands the fabled Drumleck House, set on an exquisite garden estate of 10 acres overlooking Dublin bay.
A dappled driveway bends, building a sense of expectation before breaking through “the soft curve of its guardian trees “ to reveal an imposing but elegant Wisteria clad house. Inside all is indulgence and the ultimate in privacy and luxurious living it is possible to attain....
The interconnecting drawing rooms possess an irresistible formal elegance, richly detailed with polychromatic marble, antique crystal and lustrous mahogany, they epitomise classic luxury but are at once so warm and relaxing you'll never want to leave....'
Edit - I threw the description into MS Word to get the wordcount, 1,500 words! They wrote a **** essay.
Chat GPT effort surely?
id agree its stomach churning,
Anywho my point is, if a place like that, which has been for sale for some time, cant sell at over 8m those people in Foxrock are mental with their pricing!
I think that house was on sale for €10 million a while ago. It's absolutely gorgeous. Very nice indeed.
Although if had €8,750,000 I think I'd go for something like the one below for €3,5000,000 along with the 238 acres that goes with the house and relax with my feet up. The €5,250,000 change would easily redecorate the house to my taste and it'd do me nicely to retire.
Ballindoolin House is magnificent.
Yes, that's more like it - apart from the wall paper in the living room. The rest of the wallpaper I could live with. Its a bit sparsely furnished but better than leaving it empty.
You would need a lot of social life and family - and cash - to use it to its full potential as a residence, or use it as a very exclusive hotel. Seems like good value though.
And it's in need of completion so you can add a few more.
2 swimming pools, but they couldn't stick a putting green and a teebox here!
Also, it was 10m in Feb, looks to have been reduced
i think they’ve done quite a good job here making a new house look old. Some of the decor needs a bit of work, but it’s a lot of house for the money. Especially when you consider it comes with a ready made business with the adjoining cottage.
killinaskully!
Are you actually getting a licenced bar, three bed accommodation and a separate 2 bed apartment for €295k??? That seems incredible value.
It does seem great value, both the pub and acomodation are in great condition
But there is very little population to use it. It is beside the motorway but to get to it you have to go off to the NW side then do a huge loop round to access it.
I just went back to look at that and yes it's a big loop. There are even two minor roads(well one would have been built when the motorway was and it's a fly under the minor road so you cannot access the minor road) and you have to drive down the road and then around a big loop just to get to the village the pub is in.
But anyway the pub would be there for locals rather than passing trade on the motorway.
Aye maybe the prompt for ChatGPT was...you are a Dublin based estate agent, you went to school at BlackRock college adopt the tone of your peer group....
Aye seems an odd one, cracking pub and very nice apartment. Wonder what the catch is.
Lack of customers I say.
Drumleck needs a fair bit of updating. Ceanchor House next door is also for sale and is ten times nicer. But Drumlecks gardens are stunning. There’s been a very skilled full time gardener there for many years that’s turned them into award winning gardens. I really hope new owners keep the gardener on.
If you have a pub you need a basis of walkable local trade. There are very few people living locally. Plus passing trade - there is nothing to bring people onto that road, and not enough to be worth doing any sort of lunch or dinner service. The motorway has cut them off from about half of their potential trade. There is only the church and a school near them, not even a shop. You might get a few auld fellas dropping in after mass of a Sunday, but that's not enough to keep a pub going.
Its only 25k from limerick, 20k from nenagh, a pub and 5 beds for 300k still seems a bargain. Its hardly in the sticks.
You'd have to put in heck of a big investment and create very special dining to get people to drive even 20 miles for a pub evening out - why would they bother?
It Is the sticks. Drinking and driving is a big no no now. You have no population to have a regular evening trade. Would you get a Saturday ogh trade maybe. But trade is fickle it moves on very fast. Pub near me with living quarters over head sold for a bit with 200k last year and the owner was a long time flushing out a buyer. It was in a village but again no passing trade and food not an option.
Younger couples no longer want to be tied to a pub 7 days a week 51 weeks on the year. A d the day off you are guaranteed is in the middle of your busiest period of the year.
Ya if you had a good work ethic and a bit of a business brain you could make a decent living. However the one real advantage that was there before( pubs were a cash business) is no longer there with the use of bank cards.
Before you could have pulled a couple of hundred a week out to pay for the shopping or for pocket money for the kids. That day is now gone and it is spelling the end of the local businesses, the small shop, the local chopper, barber etc.
Want to live in a half finished conversion of the 'the highest building in Co. Meath'?
You cannot even live in there either and who the hell would buy a holiday home in the middle of Meath. Maybe you would if it was close to the sea but I cannot see anybody buying that as a holiday home.
nice location.. be cold during the winter though! Price doesn’t seem too bad considering the market lately!
Moving between rooms would get old very quick.
Every image shows an attempt to find a leak. 😂
People live nearby do they not, plus its hardly a spot with many attractions to distract people. I'd say someone with the right approach could make something out of it. You don't need a big investment to serve food people want to eat, pub food in Ireland is rarely done well. Tbf rarely done well in the UK either.... but first thing would be get the locals in for more than just pints... then maybe you might get a name and get people travelling, add in a wine list that has a bit of personality bribe a few journos for reviews and your all set.
Ireland has amazing produce but most small ( and many large) places are fixated on Masterchef or the 1980's rather than what people actually like to eat.
But your point about things going cashless is a very good one I can see how that would make a huge day to day difference, maybe all the difference. As you say a wee bit of petty cash on hand would help no end in making ends meet in that sort of business. Remove the cash element and yeah the margins get a lot more difficult that's fair.
Big difference between people living nearby and a pub based in a village or small town.
In a village or small town you will often get maybe 10 ish regulars. These are people that pop in every day for 3-4 pints usually in the evening 5-7pm time frame. That is maybe 200/day in turnover or 1500/ week. Add another 10-20 semi regulars drinking 3-4 days a week wick might add another 1k/ week. In a pub based outside a village or small town it unlikely you will get that sort of drop in trade. Those two customer groups could be giving you 100-150k in turnover that is the difference between viability and not being viable.
Food is a hardshell without a passing trade. Ideally the owner needs chef or cooking skills to make it viable. Bit in reality you need passing daytime trade. Other than that you are depending on a restaurant type offering
