Those vans are 315kms range, fully loaded in winter will be less. It's fine saying charge at lunchtime but we all know there's no guarantee there will be a charger where you want it when you need it.
Realistically anybody on the road doesn't want to be dealing with public charging almost every day.
Would be curious as to what sort of daily mileage someone on the road is doing. Anything under 700km per day should be fine in a car with one charging stop at lunchtime or some destination charging if a service engineer etc ..
Would many be doing more than that, seems like you would struggle to get any actual work done if you were driving that much, unless you don't sleep!
It's a limited market though. A lad servicing stuff who could be sent anywhere in the morning won't want one.
Even dpd in rural areas would travel long distances.
I agree with you, the target market is the likes of Amazon, DPD, etc and they don't care about anything other than price
FedEx for example got Sprinter vans without any radios, saving probably $10 per van, but across a fleet that adds up
I don't think it'll be popular with the sole traders who will probably want a bit more brand recognition and better charging
I don't agree, look at Skoda, Dacia etc. In the van sector price is everything no problems with dpf, egr valves clutch and flywheel, you know yourself. Like the post office vans many of those would be back in the yard every evening for charging, that's the work they'd be bought for.
There may be an easier way to do it, but put in a low tarrif for the window you want to charge in the My Energy section and then enable a price cap in the My Charger section.
In reply to the Ohme charger question
Maxus are going to struggle to have any kind of decent sales I suspect, much like other lesser known chinese brands have done in the past. Besides a cr@p charging rate which means more down time when using public charging, using it commercially, you would want to have confidence of its reliability and/or service support, both of which Maxus don't have any history of here.
The trick is in the name, edeliver 😉
I'm guessing it's mainly focused at the likes of parcel delivery services and probably taxi services
Don't think it's really aiming for the tradesman market, that's probably more the Ford Transit electric
That's a poor range tbh. Fully loaded what's it's range down to on a poor winter's day?
Might suit a tradesman who works within 50k of home and visits one or two sites a day I suppose.
Maxus have somehow made the most van looking van ever
Plenty of range with up to 88kWh on offer, giving 315km WLTP range
Charging is a bit crap with 90kW peak. That seems to be a feature of Maxus, I get that they're trying to keep costs down but does it really save that much?
There a Maxus minibus around me doing some of the school drop offs. It looks about as basic as you can get but it does the job and I guess that's all most van owners would want
Skoda's EV roadmap, most interesting IMO is the estate coming in 2026, likely similar size to the ID.7 saloon
Hoping that doesn't mean we'll be waiting until 2026 for the ID.7 estate
Also a €25k small SUV coming in 2025, I'm guessing it'll be around T-Cross (or Skoda equivalent) size
Do you have the link to the results there handy?
Yes it's a road I am regularly on and I am normally happy to stay with the traffic, but I would imagine the Model Y LFP would have loads of safe overtaking power. My Model 3 RWD certainly does.
I keep mine charged all the time, I'm happy with it but would definitely go full EV next time I just didn't have the confidence when I bought the phev. I'd rarely ever need to use the public network and I don't bother with the phev as it's too slow to be of any benefit.
Same model of car on same conditions? For e-Niro for example he has 131-180 Wh/km @90 km/h depending on the conditions.
Possibly because the gap between petrol and electricity isn't huge at the moment, especially if you don't have night rate.
I do know a sales rep and the company gave them all PHEV's, with no reason to plugin as petrol is paid for anyway.
It was all corporate optics bullsh1t of saying how great we are at going green while not really caring.
Ross to Waterford? The only downhill overtaking spot left now is at the picnic area in Carriganurra I think?
We're getting an LR just to have more overtaking opportunities on that road. Lethal road all the same.
See your doing it properly which is you're keeping the battery charged and using electric mode as much as possible
The thing that annoys me about PHEVs is that the vast majority that I've observed don't seem to get charged at all. There's quite a few in my immediate area, I would say 15-20 just in my bit of the estate. I've yet to see any of them being charged on a regular basis, just seems to be when the owner feels like it
I think the one you had may have been a little nicer than the Irish one..
But I agree the dash was nice and it was very smooth running. Just a little lacking in power, my above comment was more tongue in cheek..Of course I could have overtaken the lorry, there are plenty of downhill sections on that road.😁
I had one of those Bayon’s in Lithuania back in December where the temp didn’t go above -10 for the few days I was there and it was a brilliant little car… I was well impressed by all its features like lane assist, CarPlay, fully digital dash, and heated seats/steering wheel etc…
I was there 2 weeks ago and had a brand new VW T-Cross and didn’t feel nearly as nice inside as the Bayon (and don’t get me started on those VW Haptic Touch (or whatever their called) sliders/buttons..)
The Bayon was flawless in the snow, and I managed to beach it in the garden trying to get a new washing machine as close to the front door as possible, but I managed to wiggle it free (impressive as it was an auto). Here you can see the car, and the beach she ran aground on the previous day….
As a PHEV owner, keeping it charged up to its 13.8kw max since the last tank of Petrol I am averaging 2.2litres per 100kms as it only tells me combined. That is quite efficient for me having come from a Diesel which as 5.4 average on the same journeys. Was the Tucson I bought more expensive? Yes, by a big difference but for my usage I am quite happy with the consumption.
I will get better consumption in warmer months because in the mornings the car needs time to heat up. Either that or I keep the blower turned off on climate control, therefore passengers would be cold. This is when my ICE takes over for around 4 kms then EV kicks in until of course it runs out and/or gets a charge. My daily return mileage if I go nowhere else other than dropping missus to work is 38kms. Range is up to 60kms but it's not true because once below 25% it switches to HEV mode.
Will check later, I am so rarely in car. Last time I drove car prior to Monday was about 6 months ago..🙂
Winter Mode should be gone and replaced with different wording.
You'll see it by going to the EV screen where you see the car on a pixelated road. Press the gear icon bottom right and should be in there.
Even when the EV battery is 'flat' (11% SoC) the car defaults to hybrid mode, so still benefits from regen and maybe some low level of hybrid assistance. SoC bounced between 11 and 14% so the ECU is working for you. The petrol engine is a 1.6 with only 100bhp so there is a trade off, no power!
Yes gear selector finally fixed after 5 months. But to be fair car was driving normally apart from an occasional warning and sticky selector.
Didn't talk to anyone at garage after, but requested all updates to be done at time, will get herself to check..
Did ye get the gear selector fixed eventually? Did they update the software for the preconditioning update?
Had a demo Hyundai Bayon 1.2L petrol on Monday while our Ioniq 5 was getting warranty job done.
Did about 70km garage to home to garage. About 90km/h max (I don't think it would have managed passing a Lorry on the Waterford Road, woefully under powered) ☺️. Managed 6L/100km .
It depends on station, if it has toilets and small convenience shop it makes it decent location.
I assume those disabled spaces will be relocated, although there aren't many spaces as close to the station as these.
Choosing to put a High Power Charger at a train station is an odd one, hopefully there are hefty overstay fees to discourage people from plugging in all day (I argue a better use of resources would have been to line the walls of the car park with a load of 3kW to 7kW chargers, for those cars that are parked there all day.
There is a taxi rank about 20m from this charger, so maybe it's been set up with them in mind (we've a decent number of taxi EVs about bray, so maybe)
Does anyone know if the ohme charger can be set to only start the charge after midnight