Some deck chairs moving in the US media landscape. Good riddance. Also, Don Lemon out at CNN. If anything that's even more surprising.
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mcsean2163
Russia invaded ukraine....
Like Wakey wakey, I know some have these alternative realities they live in , but this wasn't a proxy war no more than 9/11 conspiracy theories,
Taiwan wants to be Taiwan a sovereign democracy like most countries they aren't china ,and China knows Taiwan will fight backed up with the US , not a whole lot of people coming to support china
I think the lesson would be more like, don't foolishly allow you country to be used as a pawn in a proxy war between two historical enemies who would love to destroy each other... but are just destroying your country instead.
Ukraine naively thought they would be protected by the big powerful west, and so had no real need or desire to co-operate with their bigger neighbour next door. Which has been proven to be a very costly mistake.
Hopefully Taiwan are taking notes, and will be able to choose a more intelligent path forward. (that is of course IF they are permitted to do so by their "friends" in the west)
Standard begrudgery. How dare anyone be interested in anything.
Which, when you think about it, makes him even more of a cunt for saying those things than if he actually believed in them.
When Ireland relied on its own resources it was the poorest country in Western Europe.
Learn your history
Particularly the bit about where the funding and much of the arms for the War of Independence came from.
RT has promised to pay him in grain but he'll need to provide his own bags.
Should have stuck to the older show format like below, when the guests ran out he started to indulge in the dogwhistle stuff more and more to the point I'm certain most of the things he was saying he didn't believe himself.
It's up there with the idea that NATO moved in to the Baltics. As if Baltic nations have no agency of their own.
I’m guessing there is loads more to come out around his firing.
He was given the insurrection footage and released only a few minutes of it and then the story completely disappeared.
Murdock must have been terrified about being sued further.
Isn't infowars bankrupt? The problem is no one can pay his Fox news level salary.
Infowars would suit him.
There is no great reasoning behind his position other than being a professional contrarian. He most certainly does not give a crap about most of the problems facing Americans either.
And if the average American didn't care about American hegemony they would have an issue with the close to a trillion dollar defence budget.
I'm not interested rehashing the various Russian arguments, but Tucker Carlson does not take positions in good faith and attempting to explain away his rantings with logic is being far too kind to him.
He is being paid 20 mil by fox until the end of his contract term.... he can work for whoever he likes and still be on the same money
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So basically the message is to any country, invade a sovereign state, rape and kill enough people, then they should accept this, negotiate an end which sees the invaded country lose their territory while the invader gets off free and gets to keep the territory.
Have I got all that correct???
That leaves OAN or Newsmax which lack the clout of Fox. I'd say he's looking at a cut in income.
I wouldn't have thought so. Could either even touch his salary expectation? RT maybe but I could not see that happening. His base is the US. I am sure there will be opportunities there for him.
I'm not saying there isn't subjective metrics, of course there is, but every nation should aim for the objective ones that I've mentioned. And if you don't have those objective metrics, you should probably be totally focused on achieving them, and not focused on a war in another nation far away from you. Your average American likely cares far more about the quality of their own lives than the quality of the lives of Ukrainians, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If American was in a healthy place, then focusing on other nations would be more just, but it's not healthy, so it's not just in my view, which is likely the thinking of Tucker and his fans too. America First is a thing for a reason, and it's not going anywhere, and things like the war in Ukraine only fuel the need for putting their own first.
Deffo gonna turn up on RT or GB news... there'll be some intertwining with him and Galloway or Farage somewhere along the way
The metrics vary wildly based on your own leanings. Are we going to pretend that's not the case? 'good' is a highly subjective word.
The metrics you just pointed out are objective yes, but they're also the most benign metrics you could have used.
How about immigration. Would you view a country with high immigration as a 'good' country?
How about religion? morality? Power? All of these things can influence a countries views on foreign policy, the need to go to/ not go to war, all could make a country a 'good' country or not based on someone's political viewpoints.
A lot of of folks view Ireland's neutrality as something that makes this a 'good' country for example. Other's think it would make us a 'bad' country and we need to have more of an input in international affairs, perhaps even joining NATO.
I suppose what I am trying to say is your post was completely without nuance and full of assumptions.
I do indeed though for Fox News, this would be an aspiration as opposed to an undesirable outcome.
Are we really going to pretend that there isn't objective metrics? Low crime, high social trust, good infrastructure, are all things rational people would consider the basis for a good nation.
What do you mean by the phrase 'A good country?'
There are a million and one different metrics you could use to gauge what a 'good' country is based on your own personal opinion and political leanings. All of them requiring different ways of handling overseas wars, immigration, sending money abroad etc.
I recall Carlson pouring cold water on the notion that Dominion machines were flipping votes.
The man fishes in Central Park on his own, that makes him semi legendary in my book
The idea that the Ukrainians or hypothetically in the future the Taiwanese would only fight foreign aggression at the behest of the US is mind-numbingly stupid.
Anyway, Tucker "understands" nothing about geopolitics, nor does he care to even try. Its not remotely relevant to his (previously) daily screed.
Christopher Hitchen's died 12 year ago, before Carlson went full fruit loop, and was actually working for MSNBC and PBS when they had their interviews.
He has literally stated he is on Russia's side
Link?
I agree, he probably doesn't care about Ukrainians, and is likely more focused on his own nation which has it's own problems that need dealing with, and sending billions to a corrupt country like Ukraine isn't going to fix America's problems. I really don't care if a nation is self centred, it should be, as that's how you create a good country, by focusing on what's near to you and not what's far away. The war in Ukraine is only to the benefit of America's hegemony, something your average American doesn't really care about, and those are the people Tucker is speaking to, which leads me to believe that his motivation is likely more pro America than pro Russia.
He has literally stated he is on Russia's side. Though I think that's just cause he's a contrarian arse rather than because he is a paid Kremlin stooge if that makes you feel any better.
He certainly doesn't care about the people of Ukraine, otherwise he could be directing his calls for an "end to the war" at Russia.
Do you remember the time Microsoft had a chatbot that was set loose on a diet of Twitter, learnt to be racist and had to be shut down after a day?
That's the issue with machine learning and AI that's supposed to act human; They learn some of our worst traits from the arseholes who spend a disproportionate amount of time posting online.
