I think the Atto3 deserves it's own thread. Let's post information solely on the Atto3 here,. For example trim levels 3 types, prices , etc training is in progress at the moment and PDI is starting on Thursday, test drives on Tuesday
Yes I agree
Basic information
China is a malign actor in Europe. Chinese industry thinks nothing of ripping off western designs, brands, trademarks, technology etc.
Western security agencies have banned Huawei communications tech and now TikTok is gradually being banned off State and official devices all across Europe.
Nobody should buy Chinese cars, it is bad for the European economy, jobs investment and technological security.
Please buy European brands, or if not then choose a car brand from another market of the global west, like Korea or Japan.
BYD, GWM Ora, SIAC Maxus and MG all should be run out of town. Personally, I wouldn't even buy Volvo or Polestar as they are under the Chinese Geely corporation.
Between the trim levels there are 3 differences,. Monitor size, electric boot open/close,. 7kw. Charging from AC wall charger at home with basic trim, and 11kw AC changing on other trims,. Doesn't make a difference if you haven't Access to an 11kw charger, DC charging 88kw same on all trims.
Wow that's quite the hot take.
If that's how you feel I think we should also ban all Korean cars & phones seeing as Hyundai & Samsung control the Korean government & policies, workers rights (none) through the chaebel system.
But my point & yours are completely irrelevant to the discussion of the Atto3.
Available for viewing in MSL Navan Road. Mid trim is €37k plus €2k for delivery and metallic. Top trim is about 1300 on top of that.
No test drives just yet as they are awaiting PDI but you can go in and have a look around. Test drives should be available very soon.
Yours might be, mine isn't.
I'm sure it's a very satisfactory vehicle, I just don't want anyone to consider it, let alone purchase it. Please.
Metallic is standard in the base price, so they're talking bollox re it being part of their €2k Paddy rip off.
If you dont go for metallic, What is the delivery charge
Do Tesla charge for delivery
Tesla don't charge for delivery. The price is the price.
We'll see soon what the breakdown of additional extras MSL are charging. Hopefully can opt out of some like FK and the MGs. So it will only be delivery.
So €40,300 all in?
Compared to competition which lets be honest is overpriced anyway it's an ok deal, but it's a short range EV for 40k+
Kia Niro EV is roughly the same price when you factor in the decent 3.9% finance most will need and Niro PHEV cheaper again.
For the advertised €37,000 I might support the Chinese, but at this price i'd prefer give to Musk who's rattling cages when his pricing
Well said, crazy how easily people can be bought
After covid and handling/response from CCP, I try not to buy anything off them. Anyone that cares about the environment wouldn't buy off Chinese either.
There's a €980 Delivery & Documentation Fee listed on the price breakdown of my Model Y order.
Possibly. Just posting what one salesman quoted over the phone. I’m sure you can do a deal but h end ruined they had 3 sold that day already.
While its good to see a new car hit the market, and I have seen lots of favourable reviews ; my interest has reduced a bit
Assuming no delivery charge with Telsa , and 2K with MSL BYD, that narrows the price gap, between the two
Impossible to predict, and I am probably wrong, but I think the BYD will depreciate more than the Tesla , because for a prospective buyer, they will be put off by a brand , they are not familiar with , and the quirky interior not to everyone's taste
Atto looks a nice car and practical. But would I take one over a Model 3 at €40,332 all in? Personally no way, the Model 3 also has over 70km extra on WLTP.
Yeah cos VW are famous for looking after the environment.
I'm far from a fan of the regime in China but it's extraordinary difficult to avoid your spending money ending up there one way or another.
Almost impossible I'd say, we wouldn't be posting here for a start on the phone/laptop/pc and we would be staring at a blank wall of an evening 😁
Very few Atto3 remaining in navan rd for sale, only some design models left,. No active models available.
Agree. A M3 at 40,388 is better value.
And in fairness to the salesman in BYD, he did say to me that he thinks it’s a car placed in between the MG and the M3.
Well at least you get a dash on the BYD unlike the Tesla where all you get is a dull useless shelf.
Don't think I got a shelf, should I complain?😋
Yes you should lol. Well what would you call that thing in front of your screen? Its hardly a dash and if it is not much of one.
What would you class a good dash and what use would you have for that dash?
Ha, well I'm not putting anything on that so called shelf, would spoil that beautiful visibility..🤗
A good dash looks stylish and has your vents, radio controls and heating controls in it as well as stalks for your secondary driving controls like wipers and lights.
You’ve just described a tesla dash, no? Although, personally, id rather the stalks connected to the steering column, are they on the dashboard on the car you drive?
OK maybe I did not describe it right. That is what I mean do and no a Tesla dash is the big screen in it with everything in that.
If Western car manufacturers made affordable EVs people wouldn't be forced to buy Chinese cars.
They're dragging their heels on EV development and just trying to sell us overpriced SUVs.
Tesla being the noticeable exception.
You can't blame people for buying Chinese cars when the alternatives are far more expensive.
So much for the Chinese shaking up the market with cheaper EV's!
At ~€40k it wont shake anything up... its just another BEV to choose from.