Following on from here
New Munster chat thread folks. warning deserved there. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109477571#post109477571
Given the current pecking order, Carbery won’t make the RWC squad, barring injury so should be available.
And however disappointing he’s been, he’s certainly good enough for during the RWC cover. (I think that’s lowballing him tbh).
We could do with 1 more 10 alright, tho; it’ll be interesting to see if an NIQ is allowed, but whoever comes in, it’s very much we 3rd choice I’d imagine.
Hard to see anyone with any kind of profile wanting to sign to be a very solid 3rd choice to be honest.
You are really looking at someone well into their 30's looking for a final season or two or perhaps a half-decent young guy being squeezed out by the salary cap in England for example.
Jimmy Gopperth. Offer him a house in Lahinch, tell him he can surf every morning before training and he'd happily sign up.
Funnily enough, that was the name I had in my head as well..
Would be a fantastic signing for a season or maybe two while you wait for someone like Tony Butler to make step up from the Academy.
If Munster play Carbery at 15 for a string of games the internet will combust.
I think we could well be without Joey & Jack during the RWC which will be a real shame as it looks like Joey is now a break glass option for Ireland.
Two seasons would be a bit of a stretch for someone who'll be 40 in June.
Scannell can play 10.
More likely we get someone like Jake Flannery on a short term loan
Sign Conor Fitzgerald, who's leaving Connacht and is from Clare.
Charlie Tector is an Academy player, so presumably if Munster were to offer him a full contract they could take him too if they wanted to.
Isn’t he from Limerick? Can’t be having Clare claiming him. ;)
Born in Clare, went to school in Limerick and represented Limerick in Minor hurling.
Born in the maternity hospital on the Ennis Rd in Limerick if he's from Clare😁. I have great fun reminding my staunch Clare friends about their place of birth.
Won't there be like two or three URC games during the RWC?
Why would we need to sign anyone?
Cos we only have 2 senior 10’s for next season. And at least one of them is likely to be away for the RWC. Possibly both depending on injury.
We need someone regardless of RWC anyways, but the need is obviously more acute when you’re down numbers.
In a non rwc year you have autumn internationals & 6 nations, that's over 8 weeks without a 10 or anyother position for that matter, can kinda get away with it in the backs or backroom, NIQ 10 all the way
Why isn't Tony Butler in this discussion at all?
Leinster have only 3 senior 10s for next season, and as it currently stands 2 will be at the RWC (injury permitting), leaving Harry Byrne as the only senior 10 in the squad.
Ciaran Frawley (who may well be at the RWC himself) is a centre who can play 10, not unlike Rory Scannell.
Leinster will likely turn to their two academy 10s during this window, but Munster won't?
Barring injury I don't see frawley at the rwc
Prendergast got his go last week & will be sheparded in over the opening rounds of urc nxt season
Munster were not in a position to do that this year & realistically what leinster can do with squad rotation is an outlier
1) I have mentioned Tony Butler previously and
2) The post you quoted literally says it’s not just for cover during the RWC. It’s very unlikely we enter the season with only 2 senior 10’s.
if carbery comes back into the irish squad it might be a problem but otherwise it should be fine with crowley, carbery, butler and scannell if needed
I wouldn’t be panicking about this. I’d be surprised if Carbery retains any stature in the Ireland setup.
For further details see my rant about the possible sainthood for Ross Byrne a few pages back.
bottom line- I think the Ireland pecking order is Sexton,Ross Byrne then the rest. Carbery is possibly below Crowley in Munster- he’s hardly going to be 3 for Ireland ahead of Crowley if the latter is first choice for Munster.
Archer was starting for Munster but John Ryan was getting picked for Ireland before. Bit ironic that Carbery was dropped for Ireland at a stage when he was in reasonably good form for Munster, and was consistently picked for Ireland when he probably should have been dropped.
Goddamit.
POM made his Munster debut on Jan 2, 2010, i.e., a few days too late to have played in the 00's, and thus be still going strong in his third decade at the province.
Completely arbitrary, in many respects, but "three decades of war" would have been such a fitting way to summarize his contribution to Munster.
Who are the three if not including Frawley?
Well Sexton has played his last game for Leinster. So that leaves Leinster with 2 senior outhalves. A centre who has played one game at outhalf in the last 3 years. A year 2 academy outhalf and a year one academy outhalf for the season. With Ross Byrne probably away with Ireland for the 6N.
I would still say Leinsters choices are stronger but it’s still only 2 senior 10’s.
A centre who has played one game at outhalf in the last 3 years.
The full context here is that he’s a centre who was also being considered as an option at 10 for Ireland. (And indeed started some development games for Ireland there too).
He’s a far more live option than Rory Scannell, who’s a break-glass option
And even just numbers-wise, Leinster have more options.
True. But the point is that it looks unlikely that the 2 munster 10s will be away on Ireland duty in the future. If Sexton is first choice, Ross Byrne second- hardly likely that both Crowley and Carbury will be called into the Ireland camp.
if Sexton gets injured then that could change I suppose.
Sexton’s gone post-RWC. After that, or even with an injury for the RWC, it’s very possible both could be called into Ireland camp.
Why are people only focussing on the RWC (as an aside why are posters talking about Leinster players in a Munster thread) it has been mentioned a few times now that we (Munster) need a 3rd outhalf for the season, not just for the period of the RWC.
Sorry, fair point of course! I was forgetting that Sexton is gone.
So Leinster are in the same boat, two senior out halves entering the season.
Because sometimes it's necessary to talk about other teams for the sake of comparison, even if it means mentioning the dreaded Leinster in the precious Munster thread.
Don't be a dick.
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