Our Kerry cheque down 10 cents compared to March last year.
Unfortunately it looks like we going to be down over the 20 cent of a cut overall 😕 🙃 😐
Do you know anymore on the top up on 2022 milk. We got it in March last year and nothing so far
What will cost of production be this year? I changed over to a company last year, between the costs, a calf shed, 100 mats and cubicles and expensive fertilliser I have no rainy day fund 😑.
Spent it on cocaine and hookers
Down from peak?
That's like saying my income is decimated since last year when I won the lotto.
Surely we can't plan on last year being any sort of normal.
Down 3c here from March last year.
If input costs don't correct themselves mid 30's milk price is equivalent to low 20's pre covid, milk needs to be mid 40's given where input costs are to have any kind of margin and invest back into the business
Haven heard anything on top up for 2022. Dont think anything is coming. Probably will need arbitration. I believe they think the top up of 2 cents we got last August or September sorted it for the year. We got a top up in the March cheque for Jan, Feb, March this year.
Don't forget they gave us a few free trees too. Wish they'd just pay for the milk and forget their evolve green washing.
We can see from other farming types that there will be plenty fools available to keep working themselves in to the ground just for the glory of milking cows. As far as I'm concerned last year was the only year I got paid a fair price for what I do.
Lads covered up the poor return for years by over stocking and stretching their resources but that day is coming to an end now with the walls closing in all around.
One of the truest statements made on here in a while
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The problem with good milk price is the big dairy farmers show what c##ts they are. I see a big lad after renting a place for 600 euro an acre. A place a friend of mine a handy farmer had for the past twenty years. Dairy farmers should not get a good milk price as they don't have time or know to spend it. They just squander it on land prices and machinery. I milk cows myself .
Would your friend not see if he'd take his bit of him aswell, it's only in Ireland you'd have tillage and drystock farmers giving out about the big bad dairy farmers "taking land", any rational thinking person would be looking to get in on the action and cash-in
Glanbia down to 44.08
my milk price is up 7cpl compared to last year
My point exactly. If milk price stayed like last year, it would be your type of factory farming mentality would finish family farming. It would go down the pig route very fast.
Absolutely greed pride stupidity. A bit of blind panic etc etc .but your point is true as well ......I'm a long time milking cows also and it all makes no sense to me. All these lads will be the very ones not paying properly znd unable to retain staff
Let them work away, alot of the poor f**Kers are up to their eyes in debt, and burnt out mentally and physically....
Their biggest mistake in alot of cases is they didn't leave the nest when younger and actually work on a large dairy farm and see firsthand the shitshow it is with staff, work hours etc, got that t-shirt here and if they had in alot of cases unless they are blessed with a good bit of family employed labour they never would of scaled up to where they are at...
Managing people is the biggest issue once you need 2-3 labour units plus yourself to keep all the plates spinning properly
Reading a book called Skin in the Game at the moment and it talks about scale. As is, how most things don't scale and how policy-makers don't understand that. In their flat world, milking 50 cows is the same as milking 500 - you just multiply everything by 10 and you're done. Simple as that!
Ya I really think you're right there. Also I think with something like dairying scale can increase cost of production instead of diluting it
Ya agree with the above mostly .......but why throw good Money after bad.
Now granted there are a few topclaas operators who are running things really well on all fronts ........but they are in the minority
It looks like the department is changing its focus to the family farm and that can't be a bad thing imo.
Ya working outside of whatever business the family is involved in is essential especially farming
It's all about cash-flow, a big unit dropping a 100 cows say doing 6000 liters @ 44 cent leaves a 300k hole to be filled yearly, granted the labour savings/rent/fert/feed reductions will compensate alot of the above but its leaves things very sticky where theirs big financial commitments for the first year our two
It's only stands to reason, I think something like 90% of dairy farmers have never worked in outside employment expect for green cert placements etc, and it shows with their expectations and how staff are treated on farms, then the obligatory pissing and moaning about staff
Best thing I did was work away for 10 years before coming home
on scale thing I just don’t get it- hundreds of xbred cows that are worth as much a my spinners if yesterdays sale in Carnaross is anything to go by- we’ve 160 milking cows which if sold would probably return more than 300 x bred cows- running a tidy operation with attention to detail is far better than numbers
3 spinners sorry left that out
There s a fair bit of madness in West cork at the minute fueled by nitrates,good milk price last year and one particular "play farming"operation chasing every bit of rental ground coming available.
It's a religion at this stage, if lads aren't losing faith in it, given what's ahead of these type herds next year I give up re the 8 week rule, in no other country are 650kg powerhouse holstein cows that will throw great beef calves and gross 1200 euro plus when culled seemingly a totally inferior animal environmentally wise to a 450kg crossbreed cow that produces an unsaleable calf and has zero cull value...
Totally checked out from anything to do re icbf and all their bulls**t when they used the new carbon sub index to rubbish international holstein genetics it's a pathetic organisation
It's all about quality of life 150 cows here. Me and my son and my dad helps out a bit. Finished at 5.30pm . Have time to spend with the kids without killing myself working. Booked a few holidays. Know farm will be in safe hands when I'm gone. A few lads I know are meeting themselves coming back with the pressure they've put themselves under. It's not worth it
That's fair old going all the same. You're not exactly taking it handy either with that much stock.
It's a fair indication of how bananas things are gone when 150ish cows is considered a moderate size herd.
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