Great buzz around town these days. Most of it anyway. Been out a bit in the last few months.
The entire north quays and beyond need a radical overhaul though. A lot of demolition and rebuilding needed. That part of town is a complete kip. Need to bring in new businesses like they've done on Capel St and Stonybatter.
Dublin City is fine if you know where your going,
I'm not in there nearly as much as i used to be, Once a month I'd head in for a food & a few drinks with the wife & its grand always a nice atmosphere especially on a summer evening ,
I'm from the north side but when i venture in "to town" its always to the southside ,Some great pubs & place to eat,
I think Dublin City is in the best shape its been in a very long time, The night club scene is dyeing a death so seems to be less assaults in the City ,
The fact Twitter news updates so quickly means you need a new headline every 7 minutes to keep attention so now you hear about every single thing that happens in the City so it seems crazy but its never been as good in my opinion ,
Look, Dublin is OK - well South of the river is better than the Northside for sure. However, my gripe is that Dublin City Council don't appear to care, or maybe certain legislation precludes them in some ways from improving things. I can't understand their inaction at all.
I rarely "go into town" nowadays as there is nothing there for me anymore. The streets are uninviting, cracked heaving pavements, traffic up your nose everywhere, it is just not a pleasant place to wander around much. Such a pity really. I noticed that when in the city you have to keep walking, there are few opportunities to sit outdoors to have a coffee, or sit on a bench particularly when say waiting to meet someone off a bus or train. Nope stand around with the walking dead is the only option.
I look at the dreaded O'Connell Street. the pavement is nearly wider than the street, yet there are NO outdoor eating/drinking facilities. None, that would completely change the character of that street with awnings, umbrellas etc. See how it transforms other cities (even cold wet ones) and wonder why not here?
Cork is amazing by comparison, so many opportunities to sit and people watch, pedestrianisation, it all encourages people to enjoy their city, but Dublin... nah. The grounds of Trinity and St. Stephen's Green are just two places I can think of where it is pleasant to sit outside. OK there is Capel Street. Fine, but it is off the beaten track a bit, and is surrounded by run down battered buildings. Whatever happened to the transformation of the old Fruit Market? Nothing. There is a gaping hole at the Ormond Hotel that has been there for years. Directly opposite DCC headquarters. Still empty and derelict, what happens? Nothing.
Just a few gripes I have. I don't know what DCC is doing, but looking after the city and making it a pleasant place to spend a few hours doesn't appear to be one of them. And although I love my city, I don't like it very much now.
Same ish lane, other side of O'Connell St. Absolutely pathetic.
I'm home now after a while in London, not that long to be fair. Anyway I go into the city centre regularly and have a nice time in there. I really think people just go in with some negative attitude and only see awful things and hated the place to begin with.
I usually take the Dorsch to Pearse and walk up to Grafton St area or if I cycle in I come in via Talbot St O Connell St etc. Place is always packed with people going about their business. Seeing a few down and outs doesn't really affect my experience and they're only really on the northside. There but for the grace of god go I, etc.
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Maninasia - do not post in this thread again.
You have been warned.
I've been there a few months ago stop with the butthurt, casting aspersions on me and lies saying I haven't been there...NOW.
I lived in parts of the world that have way better public facilities, what you want me to do, lie?
Look around Dublin they barely even have public toilets ffs.
Again, chill the **** out.
And don't call me a liar again.
Come on Maninasia, it's obvious you haven't been there in a long time (if ever). You completely missed their architectural merit, the aesthetics are beyond you seemingly, you're saying they're run down when it's well known the recent (and powerful) dry-robe wearing sea swimmer lobby groups have them spotless, repainted & DCC are now power hosing them frequently.
And, you've got form it's not the first time you've been caught out running down certain parts of Ireland when it's been clear you haven't been there.
Dublin has its problems, it has its eyesores, it has an underbelly. But you're barking up the wrong tree here if you think the Dollymount bathing shelters are part of the problem making it "unlivable".
No I'm right was there a few months ago.
Bit of a dump to be honest.
I brought some foreign friends to Dublin a couple of weekends ago. We ended up doing a little walking tour.
We went into the city center walked up to Guinness. On the way we got offered coke a couple of times. Passed queues of walking dead outside what i assume was a methodone center.
Went to Guinessess which was great. Came out and they decided they wanted to walk down some old Dublin streets, so we zig zagged back towards the castle.
Along the way there was a couple shooting up at the tree outside the cornmarket building.
The castle was lovely.
We went then to get the bus on abbey street. More walking dead asking us for bus fare.
Despite the zombies littering the place and the women tired from holding their bags tight, we had a nice day out.
I used to live in the city center. There was a time it was getting noticeably better, but every time i go there nowadays its worse than the last time.
No, you're wrong, most people "probably" don't think the same as you and you obviously haven't seen them in years. You're clearly posting about stuff you haven't a clue about.
I'm off to the Dollymount beach now, then I'm off to the city centre for a lunch meeting. Hope I survive.
Dublin is grand. I actually prefer the vibe around the north inner city than Grafton Street etc... more gritty and unforced. Overall it's a great city and we are lucky to have it.
Most people probably think the same as me i.e. nothing particularly special. As a bathing facility it's super basic.
Why? They were all stripped & painted in the early spring and are power washed frequently. There may not be much to you, but most people appreciate them. They’re very very cool structures.
I have been to the structures since I was a kid lol. There's nothing much to them , need some sprucing up.
They're pre WWII. They're classic art deco iconic & significant structures within the context of the architectural heritage of the 20th century designed by Herbert Simms. They've been utilised, used by, photographed, printed, painted and admired by many for over ninety decades.
You should nip over and have a look at them, they're very cool.
Edinburgh is nice but certainly has its problems.
Its smaller than Dublin and has less variety in terms of entertainment options, restaurants, comedy, theatre etc.
But it is a good city.
Wetter and colder (yes it is possible :) than Dublin and no beaches/sea, only an estuary.
Dublin has a great geography in that it is coastal, has some nice beaches and harbours, forests and the Dublin/Wcklow mountains.
There arent many cities in Europe with over 1.5 million people that offer that variety. Dublin is a lot more than the city centre.
Thats just one part of the jigsaw.
Dublin has a lot to offer if people broaden their range outside of the city centre.
I have lived 36 very liveable, prosperous and content years in Dublin and its surrounding areas, very much still alive and kicking, so this files in the face and completely makes a mockery out of the hysterical thread title and all it's upper case letters.
Can confirm this part has always been a kip. I worked there and would take deliveries in, once you try open the door you were waking someone up to get access to it.
This particular part of Dublin could really do with some help.
I’m working over and back from Edinburgh recently and I have to say the difference is huge . Cleanliness , public transport , beautiful buildings , public areas all just a much nicer and better running city . Not to mention a much more visible police presence .
Obviously has its own issues and you do see a few beggars around but just a much better vibe and buzz about the place .
I don’t know why people are getting upset in here though , we are all happier living where wer from . Of course Dubs have good lives if they are surrounded by friends and family and are grand , but I do agree with the people who say that there really isn’t much in Dublin for people that aren’t from there
I'm at a loss how people are repeatedly getting hassle in dcc.
Are they starting on people?
No I'm taking more like a city for drug users. Legalised heroin, no methadone. Supplied by the State, along with proper living facilities etc.
Same for social housing estates for the worst offenders that don't deserve to be housed along side civilised people.
I think it's more humane then sterilisation. This bollix of a rising tide lifts all boats is pure fantasy. Ask anyone living in council areas, it's only a percentage causing the anarchy.
One strike rule and you're shipped to the outer limits.
True. Apparently there's a preservation order on those 1930s concrete stands. Bit like the ban on knocking Liberty Hall. OK so but try painting them at least. But looking at the new Dun Laoighraire baths today they are purely functional/utilitarian. No efforts were made to spruce up what is a large mass of grey concrete/stone. Coloured tiling, patterned stoning, better railings, some sculpture artwork bas relief style maybe? If u ever visited Cascais in Lisbon u would know the effect. Easily done at no great extra costs. Just put a computer generated image up before tender and ask Joe Public for final ideas. No ?
Senior mangement , hard to know if its off there own back
Bull Wall "bathing area' looks like a structure left over from WWII.
The comment Dublin is a big place made me laugh. The area between the canals isn't big and they still can't fix it up.
Sure the council haven't been able to get neither the smithfield market nor the liberties market up and running in a city desperately in need of something different than chain stores or pubs.
i know they are 'working on it'.....for decades.
The only big improvement I noticed on the northside, is the grangegorman/cabra area. Although inmho large parts of Cabra aswell as East wall, should be knocked down and redeveloped, the huge number of ridiculously small ex council houses (and frankly ugly, with not many retail outlets) in a central area are not fit for purpose.
DCC aren't even cleaning the streets properly in large sections of North inner city and out to the Northside. The place looks dilapidated. Places like Dorset st. are absolutely filthy partly cos.they still use bin bags there!
It also doesn't seem to help that a lot of redevelopmentsin places like Phibsboro have been held up by objectors.
My last commentis I think they almost destroyed Smtihfield by over developing it and local businesses such as traditional pubs are almost gone . You don't get any feeling that it used to be a famous horse market, nothing..its a bit sad. It wasn't great in the past I know but the square itself seems to have shrunk tremendously as a public space. Grangegorman was done right though.
Yes the south coastal area sich as Monkstown was always the 'tony area ' of Dublin, but how about upgrading the rest of it. They are concentrating their emegency and homeless housing and drug treatment centres in the North inner city, they shouldn't use it as a dumping ground for the city's and country's social problems.
To hell or Connaught! A bit harsh. Put all the methadone centres in the Bog of Allen along with portacabins and the wind turbines? I'd be happy to move them all to Montrose as a starter. They can hassle all the chatteratti as they preen themselves in the green room.
Yeah, DLR seem to take more pride in public facilities and their look and style vs DCC.
Shame DCC cant have a bit of imagination.
Glad you enjoyed the day out!
Visited the refurbished Dun Laoighaire baths today. Very nice. Went on to the Forty Foot ...first time in my life to see it. Again nice. Especially the foot paths and cycle lanes and access to swimming spots. All down to Rathdown CC I presume. DCC still have Bull Wall and Clontarf in a mess by comparison. Red Rocks in Howth is fine.
care to elaborate more. who's calling the shots ...politicos or senior mangement?
