Might cut out investors too. The property market is better off not being meddled with in general imo.
I think it's better off gone, too many people speculating buying and renting out to us ejits then.
That would definitely be a good thing to make it less attractive, interest rates rising would help on that front also with positive returns on cash possibly coming too
Maybe it’s not the farmer who has the most cows but the one who needs the least land who’ll benefit from the lower nitrates/banding and the possible drying up of rental land?
Eejits is right. A developer was buying land boundsing me a few years ago. I was interested in part of it and he said no. He'd buy it all and rent it out to me tax free. No way I said. I don't pay rent.
It encouraged longer the move to longer leases though and if it it goes you will see yearly lets coming back to the fore which is not in best interest of tennents.it could be argued that only wealthy farmers are in a position to buy land and leasing suits smaller and young farmers as they dont have the capital to invest in land.
The above argument only stacks up if milk is up in the high 40's and grain in the 300's, present day bar operations on owned lad with little debt will be farming at breakeven our in most cases a considerable loss for 2023, unless banks start doling out loans to finance the ridiculous rents been paid the market will level of again
I dont know about that we are currently in a situation where milk price is heading to forty cent and land price us heading for the sky.dairy farmers are getting this "white gold"sh#te thrown at them everyday so dont expect too much lenancey in negotiations
I agree kg .it's something that sickens my hoop to be listening to. But the white gold shite comes from the same papers/social media that are lining us up for drawing and quartering on price cuts at the minute.......these people hear all the different details but they will choose to ignore it unless farmers press it home. I've encountered a few lately withe the white gold guff but when I reply with the savage cuts we've got and more to come,they are all well aware of what is happening
Big rise on milk price now
If a well funded dairy exit/reduction scheme does in-fact come into play next year, i reckon alot of co-ops and the white gold brigade will be scratching their heads with how many farms will go for it, of course the bigger units borrowed to the hilt will stay out of it, but theirs a large base of suppliers the wrong side of 60 who will pull the pin, especially if milk dips into 30's as is been muted now, it will be equivalent our worse than 2016, looking back this morning we averaged 29 cent for the year, if you take into account fertilizer was circa 230 can 18:6:12 350, good quality 16% nut was 255....
Both combined where circa costing 11 cent a litre, present day with fertilizer at current prices blended in with dear autumn stuff, and a good quality 16% at 430 euro, both combined for 2023 will be over 20 cent a litre, if you where to factor in increased machinery/diseal/electric/ contractor/detergent costs etc it's not good viewing when worked out on paper
If you signed a long lease now/soon would you qualify for the tax free income over the full lease if they change the rules in a year or two? Might encourage a few undecided to lease out land now maybe
And the sad part is feed and fertilizer and electricity have come away down in the rest of the world. Good old rip off Ireland.
Fupping baxtards. Grassholes the lot of them
60 euro difference for a identical 18% nut from a local Miller versus the crowd I'm with, with my crowd having more price drops come may, other crowd not a hope for the foreseeable, Local crowd has sheds full of dear barley so very reluctant to move prices
Not an easter egg or a violin left in the shops .
Id say the changes if and when then come will only apply to leases after that date, they couldnt apply it to existing leases retrospetively,
It would be better to only allow people who had previously farmed to avail of it and not people who simply bought land to lease it out.
Most likely yes. Leases signed will be let run their course.
Have you tried online
It'll have to go, there's people buying land away and leasing it tax free whilst renting close to home.
Weather finally with us thankfully
maize ground dunged and Slurried yesterday and today, ploughed Monday hopefully
whole crop going in next week
just another 60 k gallons to draw up the road Monday and Tuesday to ground we take for one cut of silage
nice to be back out in the fields
Sure is …..maize and wholecrop ….be jaysus 😀😀
Gotta do what ye gotta do
hopefully reduce meal fed some bit
👍👍👍….don’t think it will reduce meal fed too much but in times of drought or shite spells of weather during spring /autumn or anytime they’ve a serious role to play ….last summer and last 6 weeks show how important it is to have a bank of top quality forage in yard 12 months of year
What varieties are you sowing the early variety pioneer seed is what you need to be going with
It's some rocket fuel last year's maize came back at 34% starch 81dmd and 9% protein with a me of 12.5, you'd half your meal bill if you buffered cows on quality maize like the above for the spring/summer months
7326 is what was recommended to us
don’t know much about maize varieties tbh
Won’t be sowing for another 2 weeks I’d say , contractor is way behind with barley and the new film doesn’t need as early sowing
I'll be interested to hear how it goes. I don't have a high stocking rate myself so I wouldn't be buffering during the main season but I have late springs and early winters. Cows are going well now on grass but I have left an awful lot of milk behind due to the late spring.
Using 7034 this year ….going in late next week hopefully
We’re feeding maize atm but been buying it in instead
made better sense with the new nitrates, plan to feed the whole crop in the autumn and keep the maize till spring
was feeding the maize in the autumn
Are ye growing on ground ye can't put cows due to reductions in sr from nitrates? Good feed just make sure pit can be protected from ground and bird vermin and has a narrow face if buffering. Try and seal feed passage as well.
Gonna stick to grass and meal here. Youngstock and silage on rented ground so stock can make better use of land pre and post cutting.
Was a rough spring here too but made an extra effort getting cows out, solids are doing well but oad effecting yield.
Bigger problem I have is last round of ai was very poor on cows last year and bulls with heifers appeared to have taken 6 week break apparently so still over 24 to calve and only a few springing, half cows and half heifers. Sickened
