The king is dead, long live the king.
Only 102 days to lights out for 2023..
Reading about it, even if the cheating was known about earlier, I don't think they have ever cancelled points for a race in this way before. They would likely just disqualify Renault as they did but the Singapore race results, minus Renault, would still stand
Rokit suing Williams for $150m
for what?
Breach of contract, reputation damage
They are saying Williams management - Claire Williams promised them a competitive car and they had anything but And their argument is that Williams made these claims knowing that they didn't have enough funds to compete fully and properly.
Surely their own due diligence would have to be the deciding factor in entering these deals and not the advertising bluster of a struggling team?
It was on this date 20 years ago that Jordan won their last Grand Prix. That 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix was a crazy race.
Bring back v10s did a great episode on that race:
(if you're not already listening to this podcast, you should. It's excellent)
Yeah it sounds silly. Normally the first thing that would spring to mind is 'define competitive'. But whatever your definition of competitive, that Williams ain't it.
2019 with Russell and Kubica, they just fell further and further off other 18 cars all race. They often got lapped more times than the rest of the field.
But Rokit can fcuk off. This sounds like corporate compo culture. You pays your money you takes your chance. If they overpaid, that's surely their problem. I doubt there was much of a bidding war to be Williams title sponsor. Although, I do remember people speculating that Kubica in the car would mean they'd get loads of additional sponsorship. Maybe they fleeced Rokit. Who knows?
Happy birthday Oscar Piastri.
Re:Williams V Rokit, who's liable if Rokit wins? Current owners Dorlinton or Frank's estate?
Rokit are morons if they think they can somehow make an F1 team 100% guarantee results. No team can do that.
Ya, the only way that would work would be performance related bonuses and that's not the case here.
Between Rokit and Massa we'll be entertained until the racing begins again!
I'd imagine buying a company brings all these associated risks with it.
I suspect that's the whole point. Headlines for F1 and even an old driver and sponsor, during what would otherwise be a very difficult 4 weeks to get any coverage at all...
So F1 asked Massa to look into taking legal action against them and asked Rokit to sue Williams for breach of contract to keep F1 in the news because they didn't replace the Chinese GP?
You can make an argument for that if you want but its not what I said.
Paper never refused ink. I'll believe in those lawsuits when I see them, not when I see an article suggesting they could happen.
The journalist have their targets for articles for the year. I'd imagine they are under pressure to get articles and clicks during a 4 week break. They won't be held accountable if it turns out the stories are based on nothing more than pub-talk. You can't unclick on the article.
You may not have said it directly, but what when you begin a reply to this post;
"Between Rokit and Massa we'll be entertained until the racing begins again!"
with
"I suspect that's the whole point' it's hard to see what else you were trying to say
Yeah, well be entertained with stories until the racing begins again. The stories don't have to be true to be entertaining. I'd have thought that's obvious if you pay any attention to F1 journalism over the years.
How did you jump to the conclusion that F1 is conspiring with Massa and Rokit to make the stories happen? Journalists just need to report the stories. Nobody needs the stories to be true in the long term, they just need to entertain in the short term.
Super Formula is back on YouTube this weekend if anyone is missing some racing. There's a few familiar faces Liam Lawson, Kamui Kobayashi and Giuliano Alesi.
Re Massa if they have to roll back that result then so be it. If they knowingly covered stuff up then why not? Just because its a while ago doesn't change the fact.
It is an odd admission from Bernie. More to cause trouble than anything else I'm sure. If the rule books did state that the race should be deleted, Massa surely has a case. However as someone here said, the most likely scenario I would have thought would be that the cheating parties be excluded from the results.
Must have a look to see if sporting regs from 08 are up online.
I'm not jumping to any conclusions. Here's the original post and your reply and to it certainly seems you're suggesting F1 orchestrated the headlines to keep the F1 name in the headlines, unless you mean the media outlets are trying to keep F1 in the headlines to bump up their numbers which would make more sense
Yeah the media outlets still need clicks regardless of whether there's a race. To be clear, I don't suggest F1 orchestrated a conspiracy to get Massa to take legal action. The media outlets don't need Massa to actually do it. They just need the clicks from the story. Everyone's a winner because it gets headlines.
Just read there that Johnny Herbert is gone from Sky.
Maybe there is something to this praying to God lark after all. 😮
Poor Johnny 😉
Yes yes yes poor Johnny.
Look on the flip side though.... Hallelujah rest of the world! 😁
If he is on social media then the muzzle of Sky is off. His opinion on anything F1 will come through.
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You just had to ruin it didn't you 🙊
