So the balls-up has started since last night which makes Fairview from clontarf to Edges corner a single lane with bollards down the centre.
This will be a permanent feature and works will take 21 months.
Never seen a cycle lane down there. Though I do know that some clown had painted a white line on the footpath.
leave him to his posts about welfare scroungers, how much of a kip dublin city is and immigrants.
That's good enough. The first thing the next green free government must do is implement a cycling version of road tax on cyclists. Then you can defend such a colossal waste of money on a nonsense project like this because you will have paid for it.
The cyclists are out in force I see
Road tax, lol, you're not even trying now
Are you proposing a 7 year old on a bike should have to pay road tax for their cycle to school?
Mentioned this before, but the second Westwood car park was only for members up until recently, and a lot of the people queuing up are parents bringing their parents to the classes there (swimming, tennis, etc). Those guys are still under the impression that the second car park isn't open for them.
I was parking in the overflow for kids swimming in early 2022 and am not a member, so that's nonsense. It's lazy people who don't want to walk the short distance from the overflow car park to the gym.
Cyclists on a commuting forum! You're a man in probably his late 40s or 50s trolling a forum on a sunny good Friday. Get a life you sad bastard.
The cycling version of road tax is non-existent, just like road tax itself.
Try to educate yourself on how smarter cities around the world are incentivising and encouraging cycling.
I'm fully entitled to give my point of view. I won't go around insulting other posters either (bannable according to the charter).
No, only over 18s.
Motor tax then if you wish to be a pedant. Can you give an example of these smarter cities? Just one will do.
What rate of road tax do you propose? And how is it to be collected?
The obvious flaw with applying a motor tax to cyclists is that they don’t have motors.
Let’s start with Paris, and we can keep going from there;
Very simple, anyone over 18 at the point of purchase of a bike is required by law to register the bike with a relevant authority. Once registered the bike can be picked up upon receipt of a 5 year tax payment in advance. Until then no bike. After 5 years they resume paying yearly tax on the bike. If they don't pay use a tv license type system, only stricter.
I'd personally set tax at €160 per year. So about €800 on a new bike.
Fair play @Kermit.de.frog - I like your idea and honestly don't think it is an utterly stupid suggestion as if it were something that was conceived by someone with absolutely no understanding of either taxation or transport needs and just feels the need to troll about something they know nothing about (but as I said, not you obviously!)
What do you not understand about it? Another cyclist trying to propagate the myth you can't be taxed while sponging off motorists for new infrastructure. Very easy to implement a tax on cyclists. My plan is perfect. Nothing revolutionary about it.
€160 per year, very good. How have you arrived at this amount or have you completely picked it out of your arse?
I think they should pay more if they've stabilisers personally, take up more of the road, and 4 wheels make more impact on the road
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Kermit, people a lot smater than you have figured out that to solve traffic you have to PAY people to cycle (via bike to work scheme) rather than charging them.
Keep the cracking ideas coming tho.
folks, don't forget that the best way to deal with an argument you think is silly is to simply ignore it. unless you're having fun tackling it, in which case, have at it.
I'm curious to know why the poster thinks I should pay €160 per year in "Road tax" to cycle my bike, compared with the €400 motor tax I pay for my car.
And what about my electric cargo bike, does that get taxed differently to my hybrid bike, and differently again to my road bike? Or does one tax payment cover all 3 bikes?
Are you available to take a collect call from Amsterdam? Or Copenhagen?
I’d actually be quite interested in your plan being implemented.
The amount of cars it would put back on the road and having the likes of yourself fuming about the traffic would be just glorious. 😍😍
I think @Kermit.de.frog is busy reading up on the details I gave him from Paris. I’ll just leave Barcelona here as the next exemplar, for whenever he’s ready.
I’d be interested to know where @Kermit.de.frog got the idea that motorists subsidise cyclists, when in fact, it is motorists who are heavily subsidised by society overall.
When will those motorist freeloaders start paying their way?
I had a go of my kids bike there today. Under the new regime would I be liable to prosecution cycling his bike without road tax?
What would the penalty be? Could I deny I was the one cycling and have the owner face the judge?
Could they apply penalty points to my son's licence when he is 18?
In order for a successful prosecution, I guess cyclists would need to be licenced, regardless of age. Then when stopped by a garda, you have to show your licence. That will stop 5 year old Mary from almost killing lots of people on the footpath.
Each bike would also need a rear licence plate which would need to be visible from a short-medium distance so maybe the same size and font as the plates on a car.
I knew Kermit was onto a winner of an idea and to my credit, I was the first to commend them on what really isn't a really stupid idea! Its mad to think that this golden opportunity hasn't been adopted by any country around the world.
If you weren't wearing your mandatory high-viz and helmet I'm reporting you. That'll be 6 points on your bicycling licence
Wasn't me your honour it was the kid
do i pay half the tax if i use a unicycle? maybe KdF is an undercover agent for the unicycle industry, who see this as their best way to drive sales.
Big Unicycle strikes again.
Thanks for spending your money to give me a decent and safe cycle lane. Really appreciate it.
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