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It’s definitely him
I remember that awful barnet but has forgot about the hair band :D
Ohhh, you're probably spot on there.
The caption is "defends... today" so the picture would have been taken at least a few days prior. Well caught.
https://www.mayogaablog.com/archive-results/1992-2/ < could be any of the 3 games leading to the final that year. Glancing at the listed teams there wasn't huge changes in the starting team game to game bar Ken missing the final.
If that isn’t Kenneth Mortimer holding the ball and sporting a natty headband then I don’t know who it is !
he missed that game through injury but I’m wondering was it a photo from the semi final maybe
Tony Corcoran - back second from left.
The D Byrne at full forward could be Diarmuid Byrne from Castlebar. The only possible resemblence in the photo would be the bleached hair dude.
I'm guessing the other midfielder (Deacy) is the tall guy with the curly hair mid-centre back row - purely cause of height.
I think the long hair ginger guy on the right is David Leydon, but definitely open to correction on that one.
Had to cover the hair with my finger and squint at the screen to finally see it... but I'd say you're right.
Danny McHugh standing far left in back row.
McDonagh (Mayo Abbey) standing 4th from left.
Doc Hughes keeper.
David O'Loughlin (Kilmaine) standing far right back row.
Niall McMahon (Hollymount) sitting 3rd from left (?).
Fergal Costello (Ballinrobe) sitting 3rd from right.
Kenneth Morley (Hollymount?) sitting 2nd from right.
The rest have me stumped.
Back row, 2nd from the right maybe? Collar is turned up
Spotted that one from (Dr.) Donal Hughes during the week. Blast from the past.
The 1992 Final so jumping over to the Mayo GAA Blog archives we can grab:
FINAL: Mayo 0-9 Roscommon 0-10 (MacHale Park, 26/7/1992). MAYO: D Hughes; N McMahon, K Morley, T Corcoran; J Casey, D Leyden, F Costello; C Deasy (0-3), D O’Loughlin; D McDonagh (0-1), D McHugh (0-1), D Tiernan; C MacDonald (0-1), D Byrne (0-2), D Nestor (0-1). Subs: E McDonagh for MacDonald, D Sheridan for Tiernan.
McDonald and Nestor you'd spot fairly quickly alright.
I knew I recognised Costello but until I spotted the name I couldn't think of who it was, sorry Fergal!
Even seeing the names listed I'm struggling to pick out which of them is John Casey. I'd have figured he's one I'd have picked out straight away.
I saw this on twitter, struggling to name too many of them. Nestor is second in from the left front row, Ciaran MC third from left back row, is that Leydon from Ballina front right?
Team named, McHugh in for Callinan, I wonder is that with an eye to the U-20s?
That references the kick-out mark though.
For the taker of the advanced mark to be changed I think basically the catcher needs to be subbed off with injury. Something similar happened in the Galway/Roscommon league final last year. Tierney (I think), caught an advanced mark but landed very heavily and was down injured for 3 or 4 minutes. Even as he stood up he looked like he needed a few minutes to get back into the game, but the ref took the ball from Shane Walsh and insisted Tierney took the kick.
See from seconds 35 to 45 in the following:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJJhI61m1DI
Yeah. A little less than a 1/3 u18, a bit more than a 1/3 (I think it's 16 but could be as low as 13) u20 and the rest, the other ~1/3, still u19.
That said, a couple of those u19s unfortunate not to be involved with the seniors this year and very likely to be next year (Morahan in particular was outstanding for Mitchells and I'm a big of Dawson too) and some outrageous talent among the u18s so wouldn't hold the age against them. Throw in lads like Kelly who looked comfortable in the FBD this year and Fallon that would have looked right at home and you'd hope they can put a nice run together.
Open to correction but my understanding is that the replacement kicker cannot score from the mark in that situation
I know the mark has been criticized, but I think Mayo could do a little more to utilise it a lot better through Ryan O'Donoghue. He is a great man to take a mark, and the main thing is that he has the capacity to score from his hands almost anywhere inside the 45. Most players will let the ball bounce in front of them when going for the ball. But O'Donoghue will dive towards the ball in order for it not to touch the ground and he can claim the mark. Ciaran Kilkenny is another man who does this, but he doesn't have the scoring ability of Ryan. To take the mark, it only needs a small 20 metre kick chest high. Mayo should be able to put a couple of plays together on the training pitch to allow Ryan to get a straightforward mark around the 30 metre line which for him would be a tap over. E.g, have another player block his marker to give Ryan free for a clean movement towards the ball. The crucial part is the quality of the kick - it is much easier to kick a low bouncing kick towards an oncoming forward; but the mark would require a tougher more precise kick. But the likes of paddy Durkan, Matthew Ruane, Conor Loftus are well capable of that.
Incidentally, I was looking up the Mark rules there, and there is something that I never I knew. If a player takes a mark but is too injured to take it, the ref will pass it to the closest teammate. I'm surprised this hasn't been exploited e.g. I have seen some players (defenders) get marks say around 35 yards out. The percentages may be quite low as to making that score. But they had their wits, had a look around to see if any scoring forwards in their vicinity and then go down with an "ankle injury", the ref should pass the mark to the scoring forward. I stand to be corrected on some of this, as it was just a quick look at the internet. THere was some issue where the person taking over the mark responsibility could not shoot direct, but I think that has been replaced.
Oh yeah, I forgot about him.
No, leave him there, move O'Donoghue or Conroy out to the half forward line.
If all were fit wouldn't it be a great problem to have.
their the three best forwards in mayo. No question. Do you drop Aidan then ?
Make it 9 players who took part in last years minor final in the panel. That's quite a few players who are still u18 in the u20 panel. I know Ronan Clarke at least is still only 17.
Everyone being fit I think the front three are a nailed on Cillian, ROD and Conroy.
Anything else would be just messing.
Not something you need worry about with mayo Game never won
the upside is that you don't need an impact off the bench, and the game is already won.
I see where you are coming from with Tommy. The only downside to starting him is that he makes a bigger impact coming off the bench than Carr or McHale would at present.
I'd be starting him though.
Conroy is key to us beating the big teams. His pace is frightening for defenders and if he stays fit and gets game sharp then he has to start ahead of Carr or Mchale.
Playing in one doesn't rule them out of the other but they can only play in 1 per rolling 7 days (so basically rules them out for the Connacht Championship the way our games fall).
Kicked up a lot of commotion recently when Rory Gallagher kicked off about the 5 u20 Derry lads on the Senior panel. Didn't get the (interpretation of the) rule changed but they managed to shift a game to lessen the impact slightly.
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/04/04/news/no_plans_to_revisit_u20_ruling_say_gaa-3183534/
Diarmuid Duffy is a strange omission alright. At a guess, he probably opted out to focus on leaving cert. That's fairly common at U20 level.
Can they play u20 and Senior or does that rule them out of senior?
When you consider no Diarmuid Duffy or Charlie Bourke included there (no idea on injury/availability of either) no shortage of talent to fill the spots either.
Having a 38 man U20 panel is some going. No expense being spared at senior or underage levels by the looks of things...
Interesting seeing Bob and Sam included, for now at least.
Very young panel but a lot of fantastic potential there.
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