So the balls-up has started since last night which makes Fairview from clontarf to Edges corner a single lane with bollards down the centre.
This will be a permanent feature and works will take 21 months.
The section from the start of the park, heading into town is already open. I originaly had reservations on the width, and ability to overtake, but it looks pretty good actually.
Which website? The City Council website says closed during the nights only, but today it was closed at 9am.
https://www.dublincity.ie/residential/transportation/current-roadworks/east-wall-road-dublin-3
This is the issue, the information is either wrong, mis-leading or non-existent.
Is there another website?
Yeah, that's odd. I'd guess that they just made a mistake, or the website isn't set up for such long closures. For this project, you're better off following the clontarf to city centre website.
The traffic management section is here.
It's a lot clearer, in my opinion.
As the above poster pointed out, you should be looking at the DCC website for the project.
You need to speak with your neighbours more. And you need to follow local councillors on twitter to get the information. No point moaning about something if you don't bother to read the information that's out there. The council aren't going to sit down and speak to everyone individually.
I will make sure to tell my 94 year old neighbour to check Twitter.
Clonmel could as easily have stuffed another piece of paper regarding this through the door at the last minute as they have done before, but they didn't.
I know it's a worthwhile project but mother of jaysus the state of the roads for non motorists is a thundering disgrace. I'd rather they left the areas closed of than open up like they have.
I'm sure your 94 year old neighbour is still driving their car alright. 😂
This is exactly why I said you need to talk to your neighbours. You have a responsibility to look out for your community, especially older members of that community.
Was on this route at Fairview yesterday. A cycle lane and a few trees. What an appalling waste of public money and the distuption too. €62 million. Should be a public inquiry. The sooner the Greens are out at the next election or before, the better.
Next time you should cycle through, enjoy the new facilities, get some exercise and fresh air, and calm yourself down.
Maybe try inform yourself on what the bulk of the money was actually spent on. The project had pretty mich nothing to do with the Greens!
What was it spent on?
Well that's confirmation at least lol
I'm genuinely curious what the money is being spent on and how this correlates with the end result so far.
You can be as eco nazi as you like but it is a criminal amount of money to spend on a cycle lane.
If you were genuinely curious you'd have been able to find out by now.
Or else you're trolling.
Or were idiotic enough to wander into a long thread about a topic you clearly know little about, with a strident opinion, and then expect others to correct your ignorance.
Everybody needs proper water infrastructure and connections to their houses. Not just eco nazis.
However, in the interests of not keeping this going, they're replacing a water main which is the reason they've to go so deep with the works. It's a lot more than just a surface skim with some tarmac for bikes.
This has been discussed at length if one were to bother looking. The project is a multi-agency project including Irish Water who will be replacing their 100 year old water mains. The project will also deliver improved bus lanes which will allow for faster bus journeys. In addition there will be imporoved pedestrian facilities and streetscapes including a new pedestrian walkway in Fairview Park. And there will also be a segregated cycle path which will encourage many more people to travel sustainably to and from the city centre safely.
But yeah, "cycle path 🤬"
The bus lane is the same as it was. There was a cycle lane already. Like I said, waste of our money.
🤬
Wait till you hear how much motorways and other roads cost! For example, more than €300m for 20km of a road outside Westport. At least with this one it mainly went on improved water mains, along with all the rest.
Right, just like your contributions elsewhere on this site, you're just trolling now.
If you had travelled along the route yesterday as you claimed then you would have been travelling along something that did not exist previously, you travelled safely which you could not do previously given the various issues with the previous cycle path. You passed bus stops that provided greater protection for people and cyclists. You also travelled alongside a brand new water mains.
don't even bother responding to that poster, a long-term resident of my ignore list. If the presence of a cycle lane is making them angry that's an added bonus to this project at no extra cost.
KtF wants motorways everywhere. It worked for LA in the 80s and 90s and it would definitely work here if only we would stop wasting money on water, buses and bikes.
In related, look at how many rail lines LA has built since the first one opened in the 90s and how far they expect to go in the next 17 years. The era of urban motorways is dead.
Does anyone drive the route regularly? Was there a dramatic change in journey time? Before the works started you would have sworn the world was ending with the moaning on facebook but not a peep out of those same groups since then so I assume the journey time isn't significantly increased?
On the previous idea of bus lane cameras , these are just outside Javaholics, anyone know what they're for?
Some posters were talking like it would shut the whole city down and wouldn't last a week. I'd say either people just dealt with the few extra minutes, or left the car at home. Just shows that making it harder for drivers means they'll find other means or suck it up.
Pity the idiotic queue for Westwood car park impacts cyclists and buses, and not motorists. That would be delightful to see.
Traffic counters
I'm an unusual case in that I have driven that route before and after, cycled that route before and after, and got the bus that route, before and after.
At peak times it has always been a frustrating locale to drive through, it was never great, but yes the road works did increase drive times because all the inbound traffic has been going down Fairview Strand into Ballbough rather than half or more going over Annesly Bridge. What I tend to do is actually cross across the Malahide Road and go through Marino and come down Addison Road, I think most locals use this rat-run. It's not great as at peak times on Addison Road there's a lot of people trying to bring their children to school and it can be quite tight with bikes and scooters, as residents also park cars up on the footpath here. I've seen kids and buggies out of the road trying to get through.
When there are a lot of commuters in cars (Heavy rain, or times when it seems like people aren't opting to work from home) there can be a tailback / slow moving traffic that goes back from Fairview up the Howth Road and down past Westwood. I think there's slower traffic on the sea front through Clontarf in general, not certain why.
Buses through Fairview are quicker than driving, for obvious reasons, although when it's busy I've been in buses that can't move out from the bottom of the Howth Road, because of cars filling up the junction and yellow box.
Cycling is pretty much the same as it was before, to be honest, the only thing is at some points during the works it has felt quite hazardous / unclear what's going on.
If cycling or getting the bus outbound from town I haven't noticed a time difference from when before the works were there, but that makes sense.
If you're driving outbound from town coming through Fairview or going over the Alfie Byrne Bridge it is a lot slower than it was before. Again, some people would tend to go up through Marino and cut across that way rather than queuing.
Overall if travelling at peak times I expect to be delayed no matter what I'm doing, so I don't care. I like cycling and would cycle more in the future, but sometimes it's not possible.
My only observation regarding the new cycle lane is that it seems quite narrow and although I've not cycled it yet my prediction is that many cyclists will still opt to be on the road through Fairview for that reason, especially if, like me, they might be going up Fairview Strand to Ballybough anyway.
baffles me that they will wait there for 10 minutes in the queue blocking traffic when they can park in the overflow and walk for 3 minutes.
did anyone ever find out if the council are taking that overflow back?
They'll have been working overtime since the development works started :D
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