Strong start to the year by Hyundai, overall car sales are up 9.39% on last year with a 36.5% increase in EV Sales. BEVs were 13.46% of sales for Jan.
It's a nice enough car alright, but the EV version is something like €9k more expensive than the petrol version, so unsurprisingly it doesn't sell very well
No doubt Peugeot are making a tidy profit on it 😕
I also wonder how easy it is to actually get one, for a decent EV they really should be selling more
That being said, VW are clever and don't they make money on both ends of the deal, since they have their own bank? (At least that was my understanding)
I suppose Ford and even Vauxhall were strong competitors in the UK so the likes of the Passat and even Golf were never as dominant as here
MG 4 is certainly not a “ city car” , it’s as big as a VW golf
I see a parent at the school gate in a Peugeot E 2008 , really impressive looking but only one I’ve really spotted
Agree its expensive. When grant is taken into accounts, its list price is actually 13k more expensive (+VRT relief) than the cheapest petrol, although I know that is not comparing like for like in specification. Its very difficult to understand how its not profitable at that price point.
The 208 is smaller than the 2008
Indeed
It seems UK favor Quashqai instead of Tucson but model Y is the only EV in top 10. 15x more than here. No wonder they have more SuC and shops/service centers.
Germany didn't release the March sales figures, but based on the 8 countries from EU that did it so far and adding the UK, Model Y is really ahead of the competition
https://eu-evs.com/bestSellers/ALL/Brands/Month/2023/3
I was on holiday in wales and the north west of England last summer and Tesla model 3 were everywhere, the Irish motorist is deeply conservative which explains the dominance of the ID4
No good financing with Tesla unlike VW
Why is it conservative? Many just don't like Tesla. I personally don't think they have any style at all, inside or out. They are good EVs though I will give them that.
I was a passenger in an ID4 taxi at Christmas, not only did I find it dull, it was far less spacious than my Tesla model Y
if Tesla weren’t an option, I’d choose several EV,s ahead of the VW , Beit the Ioniq 5 , EV 6 or the Nissan Ayria
I think Tesla is not treating Irish market too good, some people are waiting really long for deliveries and plenty of car configurations are priced like 200 euro over grant limit. Meanwhile ID4 and ID3 can be bought without issues, good choice of models under limit, with quick finance and no hassle trade-in.
Every EV has its pros and cons. The ID4 is a great family Wagon. It's high up and easy to drive and has plenty of space for kids in the back. I think the Tesla Model Y targets a similar customer so it really comes down to which car you like more. The Model Y is probably a bit too sedan-ish for some buyers.
Opinions != Facts 😉
You prefer the Model Y, fair enough, doesn't make you right or other people wrong because there is no right or wrong answer
Except diesel, that's definitely the wrong answer
We decided to have a look around for something with a bigger boot than our Id.3. Like I’ve said repeatedly I really really want an estate.
We tried the ioniq 5 and ioniq 6 today. They’re great cars and better value than vw equivalents at the moment. But the interest rates are a real turnoff.
What's your local credit union offering? Mine does 5.25% for EVs.
I’m not a member of one but have heard of good rates alright. I’m not sure everything will add up for us to trade in the ID.3 before the three years are up. It’s just the flipping boot!
Buy a Polestar. It's not an estate but the boot is a nice size with space under the floor and a frunk in the front. A single motor version is 51k (3.9% apr) and you'd get one in about 2 weeks. I bought one and it has more spec on it than my wifes ID4 Pro Business which was a lot more money.
A Tesla Model Y is also a great option. 47k for a standard car.
I had a chance to look at the polestar last week and didn’t! Annoyed now. The MG5 was there too and I just felt it was too basic.
The problem with Tesla when you're trading in is the fact you either sell private or get a low ball trade in value off them. You can't shop around.
I got lowballed, eventually got 13,500 for my car and Tesla offered 7,850, VW 12,000, Hyundai dealer 9,000, other Hyundai dealer 13,500, Cupra 13,500.
Went with a Tucson PHEV, would have gone Tesla model Y but not with that trade in value, also no interest in private selling. What surprised me about buying a car though were two things.
1. The salespeople don't pounce on you when you walk into a showroom, mostly I'd to go asking for one.
2. Salespeople seemed to be not very Knowledgeable of their own cars. Basic things you should know about their own cars, Kia guy calling the Sportage a Jeep was odd. I know what he meant but still.
Trades in values differ because the price your buying e.g copra offering you 13500 clearly have bigger mark ups.
you need to look at the cash cost not the trade in
how much cash did you add to the Tucson vs Tesla.
and how much extra will the Tucson cost in maintenance etc
Slept on it and woke up thinking there’s nothing out there that’s quite right for us available on the market. We will hold off another year I think. I don’t really want an suv or anything that’s less efficient. Ioniq5 is probably closest to what we are looking for.
I got an excellent trade in from Tesla but that seems to be the exception to be fair. Useless salespeople is far from a new thing - been the norm since I'm buying cars, and I'm old! I remember years ago being very interested in buying a 2.5L manual petrol Mondeo - practically sale proof. All the guy had to do was come back with a trade in value for my own and I'd have been good to go. Even followed up with him but still waiting for that call since 2008....
Why not just sell privately?, Tesla hold their value very well
Bought an ioniq 5 last month and delighted with it. Have say the rates on offer by garages are gone through the roof this past while and ecb hikes are hitting them badly according to car salesman. Ended up going to local credit union who I never dealt with before and got offered 4.99% rate and allow me push loan out over 7 years and 5yrs was max elsewhere.
The increase in finance rates will put off a lot of would be buyers unless they shop around in the likes of CU's however long them rates will last.
5% is an excellent rate in current times
We have 0% on our ID.3. Those days are gone.
1.9% on id3, 3.9% ID4 and 4.9% ID5
Not so sure that will continue with the serial price cuts. Prices cut again in the US this week.
