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Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse

pixelburp

The inevitable sequel to the box office and critical success - and for me, one of the best superhero films of the last 10 years period - finally has a trailer.

IIRC not all the same team are back, but hopefully this film can manage the same mix of character and visual inventiveness managed last time.

https://youtu.be/5dov0_sdwVI

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johnny_ultimate

It would have been easy to make a Spider-Verse sequel with the same basic art style and a few extra flourishes and do a victory lap. But fair play to the creative team here: they've delivered something a lot more ambitious than that. Switching art styles between different universes sounds a bit gimmicky, but in action it's anything but. Instead, it allows the film to not only feature all sorts of more dynamic action sequences and movement but also to more dynamically reflect the emotions and themes of the film. In Gwen's universe, for example, you have these gorgeous soft pastel hues that are constantly fluctuating between shots. It lends those scenes a totally different vibe befitting where they fit into the story, but also allows the animators to get even more expressive during moments of high emotion. It's not alone either: the film constantly finds new ways to express itself. Spider-Verse was a big step up for American animation stylistically, and this goes several steps further again. A joy to look at, and while it lacks a big 'What's Up Danger' signature musical moment, I did think the more diverse soundtrack choices also helped the film flirt with different registers and styles all the time.

The story itself is both chaotic and half a story. There's a lot going on, not least the endless parade of cameos and fan service that is 'blink and you'll miss it' dense... and then some. There are some references that'll be nearly impossible to spot until the thing is available for freeze-framing. It's fun but also exhausting. And yes, this is very much a 'part one' with cliffhangers that just sort of halt the story mid-way through - which we knew going in, of course, but still can't help but feel somewhat unsatisfying. But there's also some lovely character work, and a long opening hour or so that is a lot more laid back and vibey than the more manic second half. And the action here is still a joy to witness - indeed, with some widly different art styles constantly overlapping and colliding (not least the glorious Spider-Punk), it's a couple steps more vibrant than its exceedingly vibrant predecessors.

I had a great time, honestly, but will reserve at least some judgement until I see the second half. It's messy for sure, but also triumphant in how the creative team express themselves in ever more ambitious and even nuanced ways. Strange to say nuanced in a film so unashamedly maximalist, but here we are. Superhero fatigue has only increased since the last film's debut, and honestly American animation seems like an even more uncertain place given Pixar's ongoing inconsistency (and audience's indifference). This feels like another hand grenade thrown into the scene, and thankfully that grenade is filled with all sorts of paint.

TheIrishGrover

I've been avoiding the latest trailers as I want to go into this blind. I cannot wait for this.

What I did find interesting was that this came up in casual conversation in work: "What ya doin' this weekend?" "I'm gonna see new Spiderman movie" "Oh yeah, that's out this week. I loved that Spiderverse movie". I'm.... reasonably nerdy: I have no problem going to see animation in the cinema. (Hell, I've been to the Ghibli museum 5 times). And the usual reaction is along the lines of "Yeah, I'd go to The Lion King and stuff but that's it". But most of the people I mentioned this to have seen Spiderverse and loved it. Was quite surprising.

peteeeed

‘Spider-Man’ Producers Tease Live-Action Miles Morales Movie and Animated ‘Spider-Woman’ Film: ‘It’s All Happening’

As “Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse” finally hits theaters this weekend, the producers behind the trilogy have their attention set on the third installment, next year’s “Beyond the Spider-Verse.”

However, that’s not the only web-slinging project that’s on their minds.

Producer Amy Pascal says a Spider-Woman and live-action Miles Morales movie are in the works. “You’ll see all of it,” she told me Tuesday at the “Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse” premiere in Los Angeles. “It’s all happening.”

Producer Avi Arad teased that moviegoers will see a “Spider-Woman” movie “sooner than you expect.”

https://variety.com/2023/film/columns/across-the-spider-verse-miles-morales-spider-woman-1235629183/

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120664863#Comment_120664863

It looks as fun as the last, and retaining that beautiful comedic timing:

https://youtu.be/vUyC3ohm1pI

santana75

Judging by the reviews on RT this appears as though it's as good as the first one

pixelburp

And yet another trailer pops up; I laugh at how these films' animation style is so dense, the YouTube video encoding breaks down during the busier moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etv-L2JKCWk

Slydice

Looks good. Guessing it's all solid by the in-depth Spiderman fans? They seemed pleased with the first film.

TheIrishGrover

I know nothing about the comics. At all. So I'll have to take your word on the use of particular characters over others. But I was (Pleasantly) surprised how well the first one was supported by Sony. I mean it wasn't a live action Spiderman. It wasn't Tom Holland doing a celebrity voice. Hell, it wasn't even Peter Parker. It wasn't Pixar/Dreamworks style. It wasn't even anime style (Although it was closer). It didn't have hugely famous actors doing press junkets. Nicholas Cage was the biggest name and even that was little more than a fun cameo. Hailee Steinfeld, Jake Johnson, John Manoney, Leiv Schreiber and Lily Tomlin all have pretty good careers but they are not the usual people you see flogging off Pixar or Disney movies (Although I'm sure they have voiced both).

So it was good to see Sony having faith, giving the space and money and promoting it so heavily and giving the sequel(s) time to develop further (Even though the delay was heartbreaking at the time). I saw the first one in the cinema (Twice) and there was more the second time than the first. Word of mouth was the stuff of dreams. I don't know anybody who didn't like it. The worst I heard was a "Meh" and that's because I oversold it.

So kudos to Sony for allowing the time and space to try something different. It could have sunk their animation department.

pixelburp

Interesting how the "villain" appears to be Spider-Man 2099 of all things; that's an interesting swing (as it were).

The art-style remains as gorgeous as ever, though hopefully the larger scope and inserting even more Spider-People doesn't suffocate the story too much.

It's kinda nuts that the studio that keeps dredging through its catalogue of Spidey villains nobody gives a shít about, also produces these movies. How do we go from Morbius, to this?

TheIrishGrover

That looks SO pretty.

Into the Spiderverse was my movie of 2018. And that was the year you had Three Billboards, The Shape of Water, Black Panther (Which I also loved), Infinity War... I've already harped on about how much I loved the original.

It is interesting to see the impact this has had. Obviously The Mitchells vs the Machines took a lot of design elements from Spiderverse but that was to be expected: Sony made it, some of the people behind Spiderverse involved so that made sense. And it was heavily touted as being "from the people who brought you...". But I watched the latest Puss in Boots and it DEFINITELY took elements from Spiderverse. It's more noticeable in the action sequences. The film itself is pretty good. I was never really a fan of the Shrek series and spinoff(s?). I thought the first Shrek was pretty funny but then we very quickly copped on to the early Dreamworks formula: Eyebrow, already dated pop culture references. They have gotten better of course. How to train your dragon for example it great. But I quickly grew tired of the uh... shrekverse. I've seen 4. Not sure if there is a fifth. And I've seen bits of the first Puss in boots movie but Humpty Dumpty is creepy beyond words and freaked me out so I don't think I've seen it all. But the new Puss in Boots was actually pretty fun and, once again, looks REAL pretty. Less eyebrows and more heart.

Interestingly, they seemed to have dropped all mention of this being part 1 of 2 (I think they renamed the last one Beyond the Spiderverse). I suppose to not put viewers off. People who have not being waiting for a sequel for ages :)... like us.

peteeeed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shW9i6k8cB0

pixelburp

Interesting how they're obviously trying to keep the new spider men/women under wraps; good to see mind you, hopefully they resist the urge to spoil the surprises with more tell-all trailers.

flazio

New trailer

https://youtu.be/cqGjhVJWtEg

flazio

Dang it. Wonder what the problem is?

EoinMcLovin

https://twitter.com/SpiderVerse/status/1517011832212393984?t=neJ8-rJQiUmMJ3SrUBGiAw&s=19

speedboatchase

Finally, a new Spider-Man movie!

Ridley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118270971#Comment_118270971

The other half of this film moar like.

flazio

Sony now just going all in Pixar on us. 😁

https://twitter.com/SonyAnimation/status/1467302363501187074?t=ygGQV4-tQ2Bqvj6zBByVhg&s=19

Between this, the imminent No way home plus 3 more, Freshman year on D+ and the videogame. Good times ahead for the Web heads.

Agent Coulson

Will we get a life action scene with the 3 live action Spider Men as he bounces across the Spiderverse.

flazio

I'd seen the clip turn up on Hailee Stienfelds instagram and I wondered to myself "Why is the Kate Bishop actor cross promoting another Marvel project?" then did a quick Google to realise she voiced Gwen and berated myself for not realising sooner. Second time D+ has gotten someone off this movie after Kathryn Hahn.

Anyway still looks awesome and the direction style remains. October 2022 doesn't seem so far away now considering we have to wait until 2023 for Spider-man 2 videogame.

Also it's officially called "Part One" which means we're going to get a third movie as well. 😁

pixelburp

Even the film forum is getting in on the idea of many Spiders. The MCU thread was also bumped by flazio for ... The Spider-Man trailer 😂