Trumper's hold the constitution dear? What?
Look, I couldn't a fuck what Trump cultists think or say. I'll put it bluntly. They have long, LONG, since shown that they care for nothing except getting one up on the "other side", whatever that happens to mean on a given day. So they're input is meaningless.
It's especially meaningless in this matter, because it's (as I said earlier) a storm in a teacup that will be dissipated as soon as the next news cycle comes along.
I should perhaps have put that in /s 😉
They don't we know they don't, they know they don't but? They love to drap themselves in it and point re: Pelosi is that she gifted them a "literal" sentence, that only needs context ignored. Rather than their usual twisting.
You're pouring more gas on it than anyone else you are alluding to in the thread.
Discussing Pelosi here is classic whataboutery. Don't think she was present when Trump was running around in the nip.
No, that is in fact not how it is phrased. She didn't say "you will have to prove your innocence at trial". She literally posted "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." Nothing in there even implies that the burden of proof is on him. Just that he has the right to be heard in court so that he can show everyone that he is innocent. I get that the turn of phrase isn't one that you're used to. I get tripped up all the time by phrases that are common in Ireland that I didn't grow up with. But the one she used is a very common concept in the US. And despite their claims otherwise all the MAGA talking heads are well aware of what it means. But they hate Pelosi with a passion, and so do everything they can to twist anything she says.
A bit of background on the judge Trump will meet on Tuesday.
Democrats get what they want, Trump vs their candidate in the general.
It's a gamble.
It's an awful shame....
New York is a basket case! And democrat running the show are abusing the justice system Imagine jailing a guy for sending a meme!
I think you dropped your "whataboutery" there snake....
What does that have to do with new York? It was a federal crime. Trump was indicted by the manhattan DA who is not a federal prosecutor. Another spectacular own goal Snake. Probably best to read what you repost BEFORE you repost it.
Let me guess, you think Biden was President when that investigation was started?
The Prosecution couldnt find one victim to testify.
The real solution to the Mackey misinformation scheme would be to educate Democrat voters on how to vote LEGALLY.
Its the utter hypocrisy of the Democrats , they are weaponising the legal system for political gain.
New York is in good hands, first they had Emmy Award winning Andrew Cuomo as Governor, who many on here were lauding as a the possible next President and holding him up as a paradigm of great leadership during Covid.
Now they have this Bragg chap as DA.
I predict it wont end well for Bragg.
On what information do you form this basis?
I just lost a bet he wouldn't get charged. I'm gonna need to see the Credit Union if he spends any time in custody.
It's "loveable rogues" that we normally love.
There is nothing loveable, nor even charming about Trump.
Edit:
People are genuinely concerned about the creeping onset of socialism in America
It's funny you say this, when his first attack ad is to go AFTER DeSantis for cutting Medicare twice. If they were really against socialism, they should be aiming to get rid of it entirely, and be proud of it.
Welcome, new poster. The twitter files were a nothingburger.
The oligarchs you talk about, don't live in Washington (unless you meant Bill Gates, who does, but that's Washington states.) Politicians are in Washington. Actually, Jeff Bezos lives in Washington state, too, so that's two of them.
Trump widened the divide and continues to do so. It's all he has. All he accomplished in his tenure was signing off on a tax cut. Then, after the GOP lost the house, that was it.
American politics has 3 basic issues; The economy, guns, and abortion. That's what gets the voters stirred up, both the Democrats and Republicans know this and work this. Health care is something the Democrats try to do something about, and the GOP want to make worse.
I don't see much arguing about Qanon - they're loonies? Is there an argument? Likewise, what's the argument about Jan 6? Well documented, thousands of convictions and countings, and some fairly serious ones yet to come (Proud bois, three percenters are on the legal clock afaik.)
I agree, Americas problems with health care and income distributions predate this POTUS or his predecessors. What would you suggest the current POTUS does (and I think that discussion is better on the Biden thread.) IMO without something that eliminates the Health Insurance industry in the US nothing will change.
Admits that people in America view socialism with suspicion, yet presents all of the ills of unfettered capatilism in the same post.
Trump is not like here because he is a stupid ignorant racist hate filled narcissist.
What's to like??
So you knowingly admit that he and his family are corrupt, and he himself is stupid and ignorant yet you'd still vote for him.
What hope has the world got these days?
There are several running for the GOP nomination right now. At least one, Vivek Ramaswamy, is a Washington outsider with none of the proven corruption you decry for Trump and his family, yet would vote for Trump anyway (have a look in the mirror about that). Donate early and often and improve his chances.
Trumps arrest will be 7.15pm our time on Tuesday which is perfect timing to watch whilst having dinner. In tribute to him and his supporters Im going to cook myself a nothingburger, it just seems so appropriate 👍️
Wasn't there something about... um... a laptop or something. And something about some innocent tourists being arrested.
I have a vague recollection (much like them)
Some buttery males too
"Republican mouthpieces fire up their base saying the commies are coming for your guns which is nonsense as it would take a change in the constitution which will never happen. That all trans people are the devil and mentally ill.
On the other side:
Trans activists barge and occupy capitol buildings while sessions are on.
The press secretary for the president saying we have to protect trans people"
They are the same to you?
Good lord.
Yes, but this is wildly and hilariously off topic.
Oh no, the dancing drags queens are the problem, not the corruption, the crimes, the guns, the banning of books, the attack on the rights of women and minorities.
Were they fabulously trying to disrupt that session of congress?
The word of a new user let me cash that at the bank.
Blatantly overshadowed in this thread by MAGA storming and occupying the US Capitol to overthrow the democracy and by the right wing defending that to the hilt. Not to mention storming and occupying various other state houses the same year (2020) strapped to the head and shoulders with guns in some cases. “But the trannies” you will crow, but TFG is still being arraigned on Tuesday for his hush money payment scandal to Stormy Daniels.
Speaking of owning the libs or being owned by them Fox News helpfully reports it is very triggering to be reminded nobody is above the law
"The average Trump supporter is anxious as **** right now."
Is this directed at me ?
Im not in anyway anxious about what happens to Trump or for that matter any politician, I've plenty of more pressing things in my life to be anxious about.
You are just trying to shut down any avenues of discussion that you dont like being raised.
