Lol ....
The Ukrainan military general staff office said it ,not the Russians the Ukrainans confirmed it ...
Do you actually read or just try to attack anyone who doesn't support your opinion Slava Slava yada yada yada.
Amateur stuff really
I presume you've allowed for that there maybe an element of Ukrainian disinformation in this?
Supposing that Russia got its forces kicked out of Ukraine and Putin did order a nuclear strike on Ukraine, what could NATO realistically do which would both cow Russia and also prevent that regional disaster from escalating into a worldwide one? Is there even anything?
We know that the US has threatened things like sinking Russia's whole black sea fleet, for one thing, but in the scenario above it would be a case of Russian forces already having beaten a path back across their border.
People sometimes talk about NATO cynically bleeding Russia and causing a lot of Ukrainian casualties in the process. This would be a fairer point if it weren't for the fact that Russia possesses a huge cache of nuclear weapons and so there's always this worry that inflicting conventional defeat upon it too quickly would cause desperation and a launch, thus the slow bleed could be considered the safest way.
This is the tweet you quoted.
There is no talk of fighting in the city center that you are claiming.
To be fair they were brilliant snipers in WW2. I suppose even if you put them in the rear arrears miles from the front they could free up men from those areas to go to the front. I suppose there is logic to it. Plus if they end up on the front lines which might be the case that is 1 more person Ukraine are up against whether it's a man or a woman.
Not sure what statement you are referring to but most of what I have seen reported from Bakhmut recently is that the situation there is stabilising and the attacks from the moscovytes are getting less intense. The most recent article I found on the topic does say the moskovytes are still trying to attack through the city centre since they can use buildings there to give them some cover but overall the situation is starting to look better for the Ukrainian forces as reported here from close to the front lines:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/30/todayspaper/ukraine-bakhmut-russia.html
Bakhmut has and continues to be a complete meat grinder for the orcs.
I have but the available evidence photos and videos show close quarters battles being faught in the center of bakhmut,
Maybe the Ukrainans are thinking it's served it's purpose
I think there was talk that if russia which I would assume also means the russians in the puppet state belarus used nuclear weapons it would clear the way for full on attack from NATO forces on russia. Poland, Turkey and all the Baltic states would be effected by radiation from nuclear weapons being used in Ukraine so NATO would be well within its rights to try to disable all of russias nuclear strike capabilities as soon as possible. The official statements I heard last year seemed to imply the response would be proportional to what russia did so the use of one tactical nuclear weapon or an accident at a nuclear plant caused by russian forces in Ukraine might see one type of response but a more extensive nuclear attack on Ukraine could lead to much more severe attack on russia. I agree with you that it may be true that a slower defeat of the moskovytes might be the safer way to end the conflict in Ukraine.
Let's see the evidence then if you have it on hand.
There is more recent news unfortunately,the Russian have pushed into the center of bakhmut and are consolidating what they took very much recently
So your saying that the Ukrainans are telling lies .....
But ,but,but orc propaganda aka your haven't a clue about bakhmut or anything else to do with ukraine,
it’s more realistic to say that any woman, from either side, near front line Russian troops is at huge risk given their animalistic behaviour to date.
No, I am saying you're telling lies.
You made unsubstantiated claims up and you refuse to back them up.
I would say any intentional nuclear action would result in total nuclear war. Once they are shown to intentionally be wiling to step over that line the attitude has to be to prevent it from happening repeatedly. If the threat of being attacked is not enough to stop it (as shown by them using it once) then Russia's capability to use more would have to be physically removed.
However this is unlikely. Russia knows it is all or nothing and so wouldn't shoot any nuclear missiles in Ukraine unless they are willing to launch a full attack on the world.
Could you post a link to your more recent report as the one I provided a link to above is from today?
Wouldn't it be correct to assume they're on the outskirts of the centre but the majority of the centre is still held by Ukraine including the entire western side.
It really feels like frontline fighting has subsided almost everywhere except for Bakhmut. I get the impression Russia wanted all attacks wrapped up by now to go into full defensive mode.
But it's a thorn in their side. There's no doubt week by week they take a little more of the city. Will it take another 4 weeks to push out the Ukrainians altogether?
Regardless the thoughts for the Russian army being ordered to take Kramatorsk and slovyansk must be depressing. How many soldiers would that take? 200k dead Russians? This is assuming Ukraine doesn't take vital supply lines by then.
What Lies.....
This was from yesterday which upset the other person......
The Ukrainan military has said it not me
You claimed the Ukrainian command said there was fighting in the city center.
Back it up.
Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
At what stage do the Ukrainian command say there's fighting in the city center?
The link you provide does not say what you are saying in this post. Partial success is the phrase used in the social media post you linked to so I have no idea how you have constructed this to mean consolidating anything. The more recently published article I provided a link to says nothing about russian consolidating their city centre positions that they have taken recently and only mentions them attacking there. I think you are using very flimsy evidence just to act as a contrarian on the topic
Deepstatemaps are showing fighting in central bakhmut. They would be considered one of the most reliable mappers and pro-Ukrainian.
Recent video footage has geolocated fighting in south-central bakhmut also
the idea that they've totally stalled or not made any advances in the last week is false.
I've also seen no reports saying the moskovyte attacks had totally stalled but have seen ones that have said that the attacks are now reduced in intensity. If the major recent success in Bakhmut for moskovyte forces is to have taken a kindergarten then it would seem to me to be an attack in the process of stalling.
I look to this thread for real insight into the current conflict. However I find that the conflict in Ukraine is being eclipsed by conflict between posters. Mods, could you get the likes of Gatling and Bitcoin to fight it out somewhere behind the bicycle shed?
An incredibly insightful interview with some very interesting point made.
Well worth a listen/watch..
No-one knows what's going on. None of us are there. Anything we say here has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of any battles.
This thread used to be a decent resource for analytical discussion on what we could decipher out of the fog of reports from all sources.
Now it's just become a playground tit-for-tat echohamber of one-upmanship between certain posters.
You have to scroll through pages of petty squabbling just to find any nuggets of decent information or discussion.
Most of the interesting posters have buggered-off at this stage...
Sure it's not the first account.
Or the last.
But this isn't the first time either,
The worst of it is they are both on the same side, but you can smell the testosterone from 38000 ft and 6000 miles.
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