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Kellie Harrington. Was she hung out to dry or did she hang herself out to dry?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    Now Donald , you dont see the difference between a celebrity posting on their twitter with all their followers Vs someone in a discussion forum when there anonymous? You truly don't see that difference?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    The Provisional IRA engaged in a three decade long terrorist campaign. They murdered civilians with impunity. There's a reason Catholics North and South object to the glorification of Loyalist terrorism. The same reasons we have for objecting to the glorification of Loyalist terror are the same legitimate reasons Protestants in the North have for objecting to the glorification of the PIRA.

    John McGuirk is a pro-fascism propagandist. You can't debate pro-fascism propagandists. They are not there to debate. They are not good faith.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Now now. That isn't what you said. Shifting the goalposts. Would you care to give an updated version of the statement which you do support?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I still think it's hilarious that some people still try to throw around being 'woke' as an insult.

    And the irony in your use of the word snowflake when you're getting your knickers in a twist because she was questioned about her tweet and given an opportunity of an out of it.

    And again with cancel culture when you're whinging that journalists shouldn't be asking questions of people.

    You've always been good for a laugh walshie, never to be taken seriously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,336 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    When you get nothing of any substance whatsoever from the interview and refuse to accept the interviewee did not want to get into the subject. And you know the piece will embarass and possibly lose somebody their income.

    To keep posting it as if it was some sort of scoop or gotcha just to up your ratings and when all your journo mates pile on too and have to delete their own tweets.

    That's scummy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    IRA. Disney. Hitler. Fascism. Denis O'Brien. Far-right. Civil War.

    This thread is logical and going well... 😒😒



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    No idea what you are talking about shifting goalposts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,158 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Good for you! There are layers to woke, you know! As for knickers in a twist? Don’t make me laugh!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,336 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Ohh Ah Up The RA is a great auld tune.

    Many people who do not support the RA have sung it.

    We used to sing the Sash as kids because it is a great tune.

    And the Dambusters one, we used sing that too.

    War and conflict has a habit of producing memorable tunes that people unthinkingly sing and hum.

    It is not an indication that they are rabid supporters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    But this is your problem , he was trying to get something of substance from it , she refused to engage in a terrible unprofessional way. She was there representing spar as an ambassador for diversity in the community. You genuinely don't see a link with that and his questions?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    So I'm sure you're just fine with:

    "Oh I was walking up the Falls with a f***in Tommy Gun

    I grabbed a Taig and told him there was **** all that would stop me

    And I shot him

    And I watched that bastard die"


    That's an actual song glorifying Loyalist terror, same as Up The Ra glorifies PIRA terror. At least it's more honest than you are about what exactly is being glorified. Hint: it's the exact same thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    In North Korea or Russia they would imprison you or worse for having the "wrong opinion"

    In the west they cancel you, shame you and take everything from you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,336 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    She is not a 'professional' on politics nor immigration policy.

    She tweeted back in October and promptly deleted.

    She had no idea a wannabe shock jock was waiting in the long grass like a viper.

    She told him she was not prepared. A professional journalist would have stopped the interview at that point and discussed.

    Little wannabe thought he was in a courtroom though.



  • Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    up until that point Kellie thought she was one us .. now it’s dawning on her that she needs to play the game and get media training and stop having an opinion on things

    I feel terrible for her now as media and keyboard warriors turn on her , it’s now bullying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    Harrington was asked a simple question. She couldn't answer it and made a total gobshlte of herself.

    It's fascinating to see the "just asking questions" mob suddenly morph into the "stop asking questions" mob.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,336 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yeh...the journo who put that out on SM with the gotcha implication in his tweet, piled onto by another journo was 'just asking a simple question'.

    Away up the yard with that TBH



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    I agree she is not a professional on politics/immigration policy, and she didn't need a professional answer but she gave no answer , the capacity she was there in warranted it an extremely fair question. What does she need to be prepared for? It was something she tweeted herself and deleted after , how could she not explain it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,158 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    As always the big issue in these situations is no middle ground /common sense. Folks on here insanely aggressive slating her for a fooking few sentences, and others slating journalists for asking questions. It’s an absolute non-story. Mountain ouha molehill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    The tweet Harrington put out was literal fascist propaganda. I can accept that somebody of low information about this stuff, which lets face it, Kellie is, but is of general good character otherwise (which I also think she is) can be lured or fooled into tweeting out a neatly packaged, seductive message which is pro-fascist. That's how propaganda works.

    The problem is she hasn't yet properly apologised.

    Eva Vlaardingerbroek is a fascist propagandist who exists to create hatred against out groups in the same way the Nazis did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,336 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    She several times says she doesn't want to answer because she doesn't want to get into it. The same motivation 'the fear that something she says will be used against her' that led to her deleting the original tweet.

    You may pretend Hannon's motives were innocent, his behaviour when he got his 'scoop' tells me he was after an easy takedown for his ratings.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Have Off the ball ever once interrogated Andy Lee about his close links to Tyson Fury who is in turn best buddies with Daniel Kinahan? I’m not suggesting AL has anything to do with DK but was he ever asked?

    Easy to play journalism when it suits.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    You don't just get what you want in an interview though , it isn't how journalism works. I'll never know Hannon's motivations ,but it wasn't an interview about a recent fight or anything it was a fair question that she handled badly and should clear up to save herself!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    You're arguing in favour of censorship now. Off The Ball don't exist to hold Kellie Harrington's hand.

    Then again, as a Shinnerbot, I'd expect you to hate basic journalism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    Not surprising to see the usual right wingers trying to cancel things and trying to shut down freedom of speech. Thankfully their fascist ways will never prosper.


    A freedom and unrespressed platform should always be provided for journalists. A shame, but not surprising, to see right wingers frothing at the mouth at the idea of this and desperately trying to control what people can and can't say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,336 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It was a promotional event. She was there as a sportsperson, she even tells him that.

    Shock jock thought he was a campaigning journo or in a courtroom.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,336 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Oh dear.

    Poor fella/lassie. Your argument is out on it's feet and on the ropes.

    Mind yourself!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭Snooker Loopy


    Jaysus Francie, even I'm surprised at the weakness of your response.

    Long day at the Shinnerbot office?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,730 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    You've no idea how to define it, at any imaginary level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭squidgainz


    And what is her role for that event? An ambassador for diversity in the community is what I read. Shock jock?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭joe40


    Kellie comes across as a fantastic down to earth person, but she is a role model and that comes with responsibility.

    If she is anti immigrant and supports far right groups so be it that is her perogative.

    If not and she may have given that impression then that message should be clearly stated, for her own sake, with no ambiguity.

    The opinions expressed on Twitter by people like Kellie have influence.



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