I predict we won’t hear the end of this soon in this environment of fearmongering about wokeism just as I predict it won’t advance the gun debate an iota.
Aged 28, she was a former student. It was a private church school. The motive is unclear. Median age of a school shooter is 16
State officials already extended (and defended) the traditional issuance of Thoughts and Prayers TM.
If it wasn't tragic it would be comic
Whoever that Trans Resistance Organisation are, they are a pack of ar5eholes. It's unbelievable that they are trying to defend/excuse what the shooter did. Ar5eholes of the highest order and they aren't doing the trans community any favour with that publication.
Excellent work by the cops. That video shows how difficult their jobs are. I wouldn't fancy being a cop in the US.
Frankly, the reporting at all levels has been very confusing on this point.
POTUS Biden responds to press gaggle about this and gets shouted down in the middle of answering.
To wit, he's been in full contact with officials, (and in touch in Mississippi, which had devastating tornadoes), has already exercised much all of his executive authority on the gun agenda already, and it's left up to Congress to get the thumb out.
Biden states most americans believe it's "bizarre" etc. to own an assault weapon - polling shows he is mostly right, most americans believe in general that firearms need to be harder to acquire, especially for the mentally dangerous. But ABC/WApo polling also shows that Americans don't overwhelmingly support a Ban on assault type weapons. The Morning Consult/Politico poll indicated however 2/3rs of Americans support raising the age to buy those assault weapons to 21 at least. It wouldn't have helped here though. As such, I don't see anything moving an iota on this. More kids to be shot cold dead this year and more cops forced to face up with criminals with assault weapons and more thoughts and prayers TM to be issued by the usual corners. And RIP tm - as if any kid shot up at a school in particular, has ever rested in peace - what have they been able to rest in peace about? We still let it happen and will let it happen tomorrow or the day after that.
american media is just hilarious
It takes an awfully skewed reading of that post to infer any sympathy or defense of the shooter. They're very clearly discussing the trans community, knowing that this will lead to an increase in hate crimes, - especially against people who were not party to the atrocity.
The "REAL victim here" is reading comprehension.
If anything comes of this it will be anti-trans/anti-woke legislation pushes. MTG blamed suggestively (without any sufficient basis) that testosterone supplements were a factor in the shooting - "Everyone can stop blaming guns now." she declared, having given her trollbase something else to work with.
That Christmas card is amazing, I am trying to imagine a European politician sending that out. There is just such a different culture around guns and gun culture that its hard for me to understand. It is so creepy and sinister.
Its very sad as I don't think this is going to make any difference and even if it does, its just going to be putting a limit on a certain type of gun and a mass shooter or any kind of shooter is just going to use another type of gun. There are so many guns out there already and such a battle for any changes its hard to see how this changes.
Its really depressing as it really seems that its never going to change, only get worse, more kids killed. Those poor families, it doesn't bare thinking about, seeing your nine year old off to school and then they are shoot. Its just so unbelievably sad.
The first response to the OP, this is so representative of the current state of Boards. It also sums up in one paragraph the entire ideology behind the trans movement.
Clearly the REAL victim here is actually the shooter. 3 preteens and 3 caregivers shot to death in absolute terror and pain but the demonic creature who plotted it planned it and carried it out and her supporters are the only people deserving of sympathy.
Janey.
As is discussing a topic being referred to as exploitment.
Trying to mod a thread you are banned from.
That's certainly a new one
How much do you guarantee the average person knows what those ingredients even are? I don't even know what those ingredients are and I'm a friggin mechanical engineer. I could tell you what's in thermite but not a pipe bomb. And I certainly don't have anything in the house that would make an effective casing, gods forbid.
All conjecture. You surely can indeed imagine a 4 year old building a rocket ship off of google but I still have yet to see a 6 year old attempt to kill their teacher with a pipe bomb or sarin gas, as was previously floated as a bizarre alternative in the case of guns being banned or regulated effectively. I have however seen a 6 year old shoot their teacher. I've even seen reports of 2 year olds shooting their own heads off with found guns - clearly the problem is guns, and the prolific availability of guns, it's not 6 year olds being radicalized politically by social media or gender affirming care. 6 year olds aren't writing out manifestos against the deep state or the great replacement, thusly they aren't scouring the internet for ways to cause death and destruction or looking for the anarchists cookbook. But they see daddy has a gun culture obsession. They see guns all the time too in the culture. We make memes out of it. We often make shooting someone a punchline.
And any semblance of societal moral leadership on this, on keeping these thoughts and ideas away from children flew well out the window a long time ago.
Andy Ogles imaged here in his family's 2021 Christmas Photo (R-TN) had nothing but Thoughts and Prayers TM for this latest atrocity - he's just "heartbroken" everyone, so lay off him enriching the guns for kids culture.
free link https://wapo.st/3Kf4D6E
As for 28 year olds and their access to guns the same story applies: they're available readily, ingrained deeply in the culture, and the barrier to entry is alarmingly low. If you do grow into an extremist, radicalized 28 year old, there's a product for that, buy 3 for a discount, and you can skirt a lot of paperwork in the right cases.
I see you and your mates are exploiting this tradegy in the Trump thread. Why not post that stuff here? Trump is a public citizen, this has nothing to with him.
'Yeah kids are slaughtered but think of the poor cops being labeled transphobic, the worst thing imaginable to them'
sure what ever lad ,
you should know by now i dont engage with people who exploit pain and death for agendas . theres enough people starting threads here doing that already
Hardly indicates this is "where America is now" it sure is where Twitter is though it appears.
what a world we live in...6 dead,3 of them kids whos only thoughts should be how much chocolate they can eat over easter all because some nut decided to load up 3 guns...
Ani O'Brien on Twitter: "The violence being encouraged, justified, and excused in trans activist circles needs to be addressed. This statement is unbelievable. https://t.co/ydjkmmLAZ1" / Twitter
end of paragraph 6 ,
refers to the eradication of trans people by state actors .
it awful i agree but this where America is now and the world is a worse place for it,
Gangs use guns right
The blanket statement of guns is the leading cause of death in children is not true
This graph accounts for all Children and Adolescents up to 19 years old. Many 17 - 19 year olds die in gangland killings so the information is being skewed to push an anti gun agenda.
The only reason, that seems initially plausible to me, is down to Uvalde.
I would almost guarantee that everyone has the ingredients to make one in their home. I'm obviously not going to give out a list, but they are all very common kitchen items. A 6yo can on online and find it same as a 16 or 60 year old.
There was zero pressure from any quarter to release the footage from this that I have heard of.
Not a picture I would like to have in my head forever If I was a loved one of that victim.
Just seems very cruel and extremely inappropriate.
Nah mate it’s not because these are real people who were killed. That kid lying dead in the hallway is real.
It’s not a video game. It’s a sick reality that the yanks are too soft to wake up to. I feel sick from watching that video.
not because they shot your man/your one, but that child lying face down in the corridors, dead..
excuse me, I genuinely need a moment.
I’d say kids being murdered in cold blood is a lot, lot worse than being labeled transphobic.
usually its due to pressure from groups who would claim that it was an execution or murder by LEO.
the fear of being labeled transphobic or whatever is worse than anything for some
I don't think that should out way the victims rights or their families.
I have never seen footage in instances like that released before, within 24 hours too.
Seems very cruel.
That's before you even consider the glorification element and possible contagion.
Transparency so you can see the police did a good job - hard to accuse them of X,Y, Z when the whole thing is there to watch on a video.
Grim indeed though. The fact that we live in an age where we can watch POV stuff like this so soon after it happened never ceases to amaze (and disturb!) me.
TN Republican: welp can’t stop the gun just stop going to schools lol