Irish Property Market chat II - *read mod note post #1 before posting*

Shadow banking

Those parts close to Ballymun/Finglas would be Glasnevin north which is actually Finglas east mostly. Pricier areas of Glasnevin/Drumcondra are nicer than silimarly priced areas on the southside like Harold's Cross.

They'll probably get 550 for that based on what i've seen around the area for similar condition, so even with 250 worth of work, a turnkey decent SQM house on Home Farm road isnt shocking value at 800k. Sure i've seen new builds out in Leopardstown going for similar and HFR is a way way nicer place to live.

Number of tech workers applying for mortgages down to ‘a trickle’ as uncertainty over the future bites

https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/news/number-of-tech-workers-applying-for-mortgages-down-to-a-trickle-as-uncertainty-over-the-future-bites-42404297.html

Stop link dumping

I am wondering why would an online recruitment place need to employ 1400 people in Ireland, it seems extreme.

Eviction In Donegal

Horrific story for sure and feel sorry for the kids. But there is more to this story that we have been told here. Mention of drugs, mention of missing facts when they rented two months ago.

Also how does a cleaner and a hotel worker with no home of their own afford 6 children, they seem irresponsible parents.

Dave this ignores the lobbying that the construction industry is aggressively engaged in. You only have to look at government supports property prices to both rent and buying these are unaffordable in this country take away the FTB, HAP and all other government related assistance and prices in both areas would drop but what we have now is the middle being squeezed, those on the higher wage can afford the prices and those not working and getting hand outs are getting properties at a much cheaper ceiling to those who are working and the government can afford to out bid those in the middle and that middle sector is about 60% of the over all population who are paying taxes for those supports its an absolute joke that people working and paying tax and trying to get a foothold in this country are being fleeced in taxes and then seeing these taxes used to outbid them for properties to buy or rent. The construction industry has played the last few governments like a fiddle. They need to up the vacant site taxes to 10% per annum and put a gun to the construction industries head use it or lose it. Any gov party who have that in their manifesto will get my vote. I am sick and tired of seeing vested interest groups being prioritized over hard working Irish citizens who pay for almost everything and have access to almost nothing.

Eh no there needs to be some personal responsibility here for the parents, my god I mean I would of loved more kids (I have 2) but we could not afford it unless we went on the welfare gravy train. Why should the tax payer be paying out for people who are popping kids out like smarties and don't have the finances to look after them? What is happening now is people who work and do things the right way cannot afford to have kids yet some girls see kid after kid as means to getting a house, money off social welfare and then having the baby daddy living there while he is working and his cash comes in under the table, the current system is way to open for all kinds of abuse and the couple who are out breaking their b0ll0x working don't have the time or financial recourses to start their own family but are expected to pay a wedge of cash in tax for the abuses outlined above - its actually quite sickening when you see it up close.

Exactly.

I think definitely have as many kids as possible but provide at least a roof over their heads before you have them. It is called responsible parenting.

It would appear that

Taxpayers money spent propping up/increasing property prices and rents = good

Taxpayers money spent helping working people cope with these rises = bad

I wonder if the first never occurred, would the 2nd happen.

And we don't even know if this was the scenario for the evicted family

My dad's cousin has five children from three fathers and has never worked a day in her life. In the early 00s, she managed to get into a local paper after her demands for a 5-bedroom house from the council was refused.

I've been using these boards for over ten years. If there is one lesson that I have learned well it is that being responsible for ones actions is not necessarily a strategy that pays off in the end.

What has this got to do with a working couple being illegally, forcibly evicted from their home.

We've been told by many posters here that workers who can't afford Dublin should get out and look somewhere else.

Those that have, are being told how dare they have children. What other unwritten rules should we be made aware of in case we cause further offence.

FFS people who cant afford Dublin should look outside what alternatives have they? Wouldn't we all like a nice gaff over looking Howth head or in Leafy Foxrock but guess what the vast majority of the population cant afford it so you have to cut your cloth. As for the not having kids debate I think most people making the argument that people should not have kids and then expect the state to step in as baby daddy. I mean anyone can get pregnant without planning or having a one night stand and they should be supported but I think the general contentious are those who have 3/4/5 kids with no planning or finances in place to look after the kids and have zero ambition to get a job and want to remain suckled at the state finances while the baby daddy creeps into the house given to the woman on welfare so there is a wage coming in and they get housed for free while those working and in a couple cannot afford to have a kid due to the high costs involved in having a child and trying to house the family unit and they have to pay for the above abuse of the system. That is very unfair and a horrible side effect of our current taxation/welfare system that has been hoisted on the middle class.