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You've been looking in the wrong direction, the dangers are coming from the Left - read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭O'Neill


    Irish people complaining about immigration..........



  • Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Different times & different circumstance’s mate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭O'Neill




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,483 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Has there been any update on Posy Parkers condition?

    I hope the ICU can save her after such a horrific attack. Such brutality should be breaking news across the world but the evil social media and fake news media is covering up da truff.

    That kind a vicious attack is unforgiveable and should face the death penalty. Its well known people that whine about woke/the left are incredibly sensitive to everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    The left are are out of control.

    Some woman in the opposite side of the world had tomato juice throw at her.

    They are one step away from genocide.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,940 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Keep trivializing the attack lads no mention of the mob nearly getting to her and the other woman in the video. You must feel great with yourselves



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    It was so vicious she was covered head to toe in dressing….salad dressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Woman in New Zealand gets tomato juice thrown at her

    "Why wasn't this covered by the media 18,000km away? 😡" 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,781 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Just not juicy enough I guess.

    Bunch of plums running the media!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    Ah, so protests are a violent mob when they are on the left now is it.? And one or two people who identify with left wing issues throwing tomato juice is proof that the entire left are a danger and potentially violet.

    A mob invading the parliament of a democratic country in an attempt to pervert the exercise of a peaceful transition of power, and resulting in a number of deaths, are just a lovely bunch of patriots out for a nice stroll. It think that’s the intended false dichotomy that is the stock on trade of the reactionary right these days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    Yes . Many are rallying against the capitalist system yet many rely on the government to support them through welfare as they are unemployable and are social outsiders. They have never felt like they fitted in anywhere since a young age and blame the system.

    A modern extreme leftist comes from a type of trauma combined with a uselessness as human.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    Jesus. “Combined with uselessness as a human”. You actually wrote that with a straight face?

    Some people have really descended down the loon rabbit hole



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    You are defending the extremists?

    If someone was defending Nazis you would be wailing. Yet you defend the extremists.

    A Stalinist? Maybe Pol Pot is more your view?

    Please explain



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    There are extremists on both sides. On the left though they tend to demonise and attack ideals, on the right, they demonise and attack groups of people. Your declaration of people of the lefts “uselessness as human” is redolent of this approach. The people themselves being abhorrent, not their ideals or method. You are on a dangerous path.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Mate, Tucker Carlson cleared all that up on his show the other week with actual proper videos of what happened on January 6th

    Great job Tucker 👍🏻



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    I'm not really invested in this story personally but any time something unpleasant is carried out by people the left disagree with the same level of shock and horror is displayed online.

    It's a bit of a stretch to, with a straight face no less, carry on as if left wing commentators online only highlight issues that could be objectively perceived as reasonable.

    The double think with political extremists is bordering on comical.

    The fact remains that in Ireland the far right are a rabble of never to be elected morons who don't even attempt to conceal their bigotry whilst he far left are actually represented in the Dail. Yet we still have the usual smarmy retorts from lefties attepting to downplay the insanity of the left, for example in the event of a left wing government in Ireland we may expect enormous job losses thanks to the pie in the sky economic policies these clowns have, something that could have real consequences for the average Irish person as opposed to some racists talking sh1te on twitter, which only reach people who choose to engage with it.

    So keep up the hilarious scoffing posting, we'll pretend our leftie politicians aren't a real danger that could in the near future have actual consequences for this country and instead reference the Nazis for no particular reason because Justin Barrett is the real danger in Ireland with his overwhelmingly lack of support from anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    A rehash of "it's ok when we do it"

    "Both sides " rubbish. Trump used to use that one.

    It sounds like somewhere along the way the left decided that they are the righteous and their beliefs and opinions are the only ones permitted.

    Wrong and has lead to hundreds of millions of deaths



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    The right scour the global news for any example of someone on the left throwing tomato juice or similar and amplify that to try to be the same as violent insurrection. Trying to generate a false equivalence to pull some more people into their orbit. And as can be seen on this and other threads use language that demonises whole groups of people, not their beliefs, not their ideals, the people themselves. So yes, hard left policies that stifle innovation may be a threat to economic progress, the hard right policies however are a threat to people’s fundamental rights to exist



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    I am not left wing. I do not however see someone getting splashed with tomato juice as a threat to liberty and democracy.

    I do see the danger in demonising people based on who they are and not on their ideas, as you have professed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The left scour the internet for that type of nonsense as well.

    The right in Ireland are not a threat to people's right to exist because they have no support.

    The left do pose a threat to ongoing Irish prosperity, by which I mean the basics of people having jobs and being able to live on their own terms. It's also worth noting that our far left politicians idolise regimes that had horrific human rights records and made dehumanisation a corner stone of their doctrines.

    So if we're talking about false equivalences, in Ireland the only false equivalence in relation to extremist politics is that the far right have any sort of influence at all whilst the far left are already elected to the Dail.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    Not at all. The extreme left want their cake and to eat it.

    They want to set the narrative as if they have some sort of moral high ground (desipte having zero morals) and then play the victim when rational people refuse to play along.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    The left have zero interest in attacking ideals. They label , smear , consor and violently shut down any viewpoint they don't agree with. You know you got a problem if your side is being called out by uber left winger Sean Penn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭BoxcarWilliam99


    I bet if asked those "protestors" would claim they are the victims!

    It looks like the pendulum is starting to swing back to the side of the rational and moral.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    So you have prominent left wing commentators challenging some of the extremes on the left in some us colleges as an example of the entire left being out of control?

    And they also do a great job of explaining how socialism in an of itself is not extremist like many here profess, but is actually inherent in our systems



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    Yeah, I couldn't get over the audacity of pretending that the left are some sort of pro debate, ideas focused group, who aren't totally reliant on slander, smear and censorship to get their way. This site is a great example of it, where they'll insult you, and mispresent you. Essentially they do anything they can to avoid good faith debate, so much so that I think some of us are a mad as them for wasting our time engaging.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    Its constant behaviour for the left. Shutting down anybody they disagree with violently even professors who neither lean left or right- Robert Wintemute - professor of human rights law at Kings College




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭crusd


    Again, of you go scouring the internet for more examples of left wing intolerance. 2 minutes on boards gets plenty of examples of right wing intolerance.

    And I don’t see anyone here arguing there are not extremists on both sides, or that intolerance should not be challenged. Just one of those sides seeks to exclude specific identifiable groups of people. The other is looks to exclude specific ideas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭TomTomTim


    I don't care. The modern left are incredibly homogenous, and I'm not willing to pretend that that's not the cause because you take issue with it.

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    I haven't went looking for anything. Im already well aware , like others in this thread , of the left throwing hissy fits when right leaning people or even professors of human rights are given a platform to express their views. Obviously you are unaware of these things , hence why you think I had to go "scouring" the internet.



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