The former boards.ie member will be remaining in jail https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/0324/1366017-graham-dwyer/
no they aren't
not all killers are the same, they killed him panicked and tried to get rid of the body, the way they did it showed the mental state they were in
they had no history of it, not on the prowl for victims
by all accounts he lead a normal life to, but whoops no he didn't
he had history there other women, same agenda
So, to get released, you need to convince the parole board etc that you won't re-offend
would you believe him
The matter of public interest has already been decided on, by the supreme court etc
nothing left to appeal
I hope Elaine O'Hara's family rest a little easier tonight knowing this scumbag will not be released. Nothing can bring her back but the potential of his getting released must have been terrible for them.
Another decade behind bars might wipe that smug smile of his face.
He needs to engage with the various services in prison which then report to the parole board. Again by media reports he is a model prisoner.
AFAIK he can apply for parole in 2025.
Thank god Martin Nolan isn't a judge on the court of appeal or he would have probably released him back into society and made him headmaster of an all girls secondary school.
I don't think anything will wipe that smug smile off his face. But at least he cant prey on vulnerable women like Elaine anymore.
The parole board need to be convinced that he longer poses a threat. The fact that he brought this appeal suggests that he does no accept his wrongdoing so its difficult to conclude he doesn't pose any threat at the moment. He may well be a model prisoner. AFIK, there are no women where he is to mentally and physically torture and murder so he's not likely to be anything other than a model prisoner in there. Before he was caught he appeared to be a model citizen -educated, successful professional, family man with entirely wholesome pastimes and interests. In truth he is a cunning, dangerous and highly manipulative predator who succeeded in masking his true nature and activities from those nearest to him for years. And he very nearly got away with Elaine's murder. I'm not convinced she was his only victim, either.
I’m all for free speech but I honestly think that any mention of Gemma, what Gemma said, thinks or does should result in a permanent ban on all and any SM sites including this one.
yes but he wont get it, by the very dint of the crime he committed and how he committed it, he will never get out
no parole board would agree to it
and no minister would sign off on it
being a model prisoner only really affects your chances of early release
there are no vulnerable women to prey on in there ya see
The parole board need to be convinced that he longer poses a threat
Indeed.
But that decision won't be based on hear say or loose talk, it will be based on his interaction and participation with prison services.
If he is as cunning and manipulative as you suggest, then perceived rehabilitation won't be hard for him to fake.
this is it
spur of the moment murder, ie madness, versus long term planned execution
30 years at least
that is the exact opposite of how it works
it is almost impossible to fake you see, he would be in an impossible position given his crimes and his character, people in there for things like con jobs etc are royally screwed, to try and convince that you have changed is nigh on impossible, even for lowish level crimes
he isn't cunning at all, he left a body out in the open to be found
People in prison for "con jobs" wouldn't be eligible for parole.
But Even Macarthur got out eventually.
Intrigued to know more, anybody know what is handle was?
The Messiah.
thats just in ireland where the justice system is such a joke and you get concurrent sentances
yeah about 30 years he might get out, maybe 74- years of age
like would you even want to be released at that point, it almost cruel
eventually, yes 30 years. I can see Dwyer doing the same. Dwyers problem is that he has to show remorse or he will never get parole. To that he has to admit he killed her. I can't see that happening any time soon.
Dwyer and O’Reilly. No remorse shown, no early release and no parole.
Absolutely. O'Reilly is probably less likely to get early release.
why is that?
His audacious arrogant cock sure appearance on the Late Late Show in the wake of butchering his wife, in the company of her grief stricken mother, and the fact that it’s on film for perpetuity will always be indicative of his utter badness.
TooTired123 answered before I could. He is even less likely to show remorse than Dwyer.
There is no rule or law that suggests anyone needs to either show remorse or admit guilt in order to be eligible for parole. The courts determined guilt, it's not up to the parole board.
18-20 years is statistically what he is looking at.
It goes towards rehabilitation. if you dont admit you have done it then you cannot show remorse. If you dont have any remorse for what you have done then you are not rehabilitated.
hard to say really, there was nothing in it for them to admit it before hand, better to play the cards
but doing so affects sentences all the time
He could always declare himself to be a woman and try to get moved to a female prison
It would have been an absolute disgrace had this monster gotten off on that flimsiest of technicalities
Yeah. Even if the SC was minded to hear an appeal on the mobile data point, and I don’t think they would, the CA found against Dwyer on all his other points so he really has nowhere else to go
that has already been done, there nothing to appeal
the appeal court already decided the case stood without the metadata
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