You'd need 100 acres to milk 65 cows.
Near enough 1.5-2 cows per HA, depending on cow type abd take into account calves on farm until six to eight weeks
Prince Edward Island home of the potato.
The 5 to 10 is the potato growing ground. Ground water in places is already at 10mg/litre. 10mg is the limit for drinking water. Is potato growing going to be curtailed in Prince Edward Island because of this nitrate leaching? No. Because it's plant based and heads are in denial that tillage increases nitrate leaching into ground water and waterways. Their solution is to spread biochar on the potato ground. What will this do if it ever leaves the proposals? It'll reduce nitrates for a year or two after applying but it will increase nitrate leaching after. Why? Because the biochar will soak nitrates for the year but after it'll become home to biology and biology is nitrogen. So it'll increase the soils own ability to generate nitrates but it won't have the chance to stay in soil as it'll be tilled again and it'll be leached. The primary nitrate and biology will inhabit the biochar but any excess from this will just go.
In this country we've nitrate levels of 7 in the tillage areas. It's 5 in pasture areas. Tilling no matter what crop, maize, potatoes, cereal, beans, etc allows rainfall to wash through the loose soil and leach through the nitrates from the dead biology to the groundwater and waterways. Here we blame it on soil types not the tillage. Never the tillage. We've proposals here to increase the tillage area. What will happen? Nitrates to waterways will increase. But where will the fault be put. It'll be put on the livestock and pasture land. Pasture land that with a fully functioning eco system and biology is able to soak up the nitrates and lock it into the soil. The latest result from the Cork farmers showed this in reducing nitrates. Back to the increasing nitrates from the increasing tillage area (proposals) the fault will be put on the livestock. Farmers will definitely loose the derogation. More land will go to tillage. Nitrates increase more now in more waterways. Farmers will be made destock land. Protests ala the netherlands. Farms may be offered to be bought. 2050 emissions targets will be met. But we'll now be gone from where we are now as the 2nd cleanest waterways in Europe to joining the European average. But we'll be woke now and drinking oat milk with more limestone added than goresbridge quarry. And singing cum by ya liqured up on middleton distilery's finest.
170kg and it depends on which band your cows are in after that.
I think you could go above that previously and stay out of derogation if you exported slurry but this changed recently as far as I know
Whats the stocking rate per hectare without derigation?
Only a matter of time. Just reading in last week's journal what they are doing to our colleagues in the North. Not to mention holland. Sure we might be allowed grow energy crops or vegan food. Maybe Harold Kingston knows what's coming.
This would really put the cat among the pigeons
If you get another lease immediately it can carry on tax free.
The commitment to a lease is the important thing, a friend got another lease with another tenant without losing the tax free status. If my memory is correct he was allowed a year to get a new tenant before he had to give back the tax
Not necessarily the catch is the lessor must continue to pay the PRSI and USC even though they are not getting the rent
Pay upfront is the answer there
I wasn't aware of that.
If that's the case, it's all the more reason for an owner to make sure of the tenant's ability to pay.
If a signed lease is broken the tax free money has to be paid back as far and I’m aware
Leasing ground can be messy at the best of times never mind say when someone gives offers big money and then can't pay in year-2.
What option does the owner have? Get solicitors involved? Re-negotiate a lower price? Kick out the non-paying tenant and go back to someone else who they turned down previously coz the big talker offered the big money?
The owner should have a plan-b in place before taking the lotto-type money being spoken about a few months back.
Hard to believe that people would enter into a contract and decide not to fulfil their side of it. It's not an option that has ever been available to me.
You should nearly as careful picking a tennent as picking a wife/husband.
Of course that would be a sensible approach in fairness, but I'm not sure how many are done that way in practice
In fairness 250 to 300 are realistic figures not like the willy wavers offering stupid money
Alright when money is in advance though. you needn't let them in until money comes
I didn't hear of any dairy farmers leasing at 250 - 300/acre offering to increase the rent this last 12 mths either
They may have been negotiated on that premise, in some instances even agreed between both parties.
That's it of course, the cynic in me expects to see a good few of these leased renegotiated down in a few years as it will cost landowners more to get them out than take a lower payment.
No certainty of actually getting the money though at each payment
South East, I'd say a lot that were hanging on for suckler exit scheme and waiting to see what would happen with cap payments have decided the money on offer to lease is too good to turn down.
Interesting where are you based nothing available around here
Never seen as much land for lease in the local papers and by all accounts 400-700 being achieved on everything. Be 3 or 4 massive farms to a parish in short I'd say
He will be getting plenty of professional advice in short if he is depending on milk to pay that lease and all the other bills. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out, the base price to rent land seems to have settled at least 50 percent ahead of where it was 2 years ago, wouldn't be so sure base price for milk will settle as high.
Not to mention all the other things that have gone up unlikely to ever get cheaper, labour, veterinary, electricity, insurance,machinery,concrete,steel, stone, accountant, detergents, parlour consumables, I could go on and on..and the big one, personal drawings have had to go up because of household expenses also skyrocketing.
Thems the ones who really f the job up usually
This is a sound and solid piece of advice. But the only problem with the fellas paying big money is that it creates a perception that its the value of land now not the the exception.
Always
Balls I hadn't seen that yet 😬
600 an acre down here last month. It's not faulty calculators it's greed. Get rid of all the small guys and have ranch type farms.. Control the coops to get the last cent. Cut every one to the last cent. The sad part is that they will succeed.
When I took over the farm every one had 4 or 5 sows. Economy of scale finished those.
