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Six Nations 2023 General Discussion

Former Former Former

Couldn't be arsed with the big long OP; here's the Scotland team to play England on Saturday

Hogg; Steyn, Jones, Tuipulotu, Van der Merwe; Russell, White; Schoeman, Turner, Nel; R Gray, Gilchrist; Ritchie (c), Crosbie, M Fagerson.

Replacements: Brown, Bhatti, Berghan, J Gray, Dempsey, Horne, Kinghorn, Harris.

It's not the worst team they've ever named - wouldn't rule out a surprise here.

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Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372713#Comment_120372713

No, it's because Italy need absolutely everything to go their way to be remotely competitive.

People get worked up about the 50-50 calls going against them because every time a 50-50 call goes against them, their chance of winning slips away a bit further. And we all want Italy to win. But every team gets these calls for and against them.

It is entirely a fan's bias thing.

Larbre34

This is crap tbf

OldRio

Now. Interesting

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372737#Comment_120372737

Fiji? They're raving lunatics in the 15s game.

StevenToast

Its a fact...the shìtter perceived teams are blown off the park by all referees.....

Connacht were ridden mercilessly back in the day....more normally these days....

technocrat

Game on now!!!

mr_edge_to_you

Brex is a great player!

Buddy Bubs

The weaker teams are defending more and don't have the same control of what they're doing in attack. That's why weaker teams are penalised more. You concede more under pressure than when composed and in control. Italy in particular make it hard for themselves with mistakes

fitz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372753#Comment_120372753

Nah, don't buy that. There's a very clear neckroll on the Italian player earlier, which is ignored, and then the Italians immediately knock on. Instead of a clearing penalty, relieving pressure, they go into a set of scrums that result in the yellow and second Scottish try. Some of these poor ref decisions have big swings. Now, you could say that's still on Italy for being poor in the scrum, but to say it's pure fan bias is a bit reductive, imo.

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372787#Comment_120372787

What is more reductive than "the refs always ride Italy"?

Hodges

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372805#Comment_120372805

I remember the olden days when Ireland were crap and supposedly we were ridden by refs and not getting the 50-50 calls. Of course it hadn't anything to do with the team infringing either.

Burkie1203

Scotland should have a card there

Eoinbmw

Joke absolute joke!

fitz

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372805#Comment_120372805

I agree, that's a reductive statement too, but it's not what I said. I think theres something to what you're saying too...it's frustrating when they get clear bad reffing decisions cause it impacts them more than stronger sides.

Ridiculous stuff here again, Scots should have been down to 14 here.

Burkie1203

Scotland tackler miles offside there surely

Larbre34

Absolutely thieved.

Officials will kill rugby eventually.

walshb

Italians blew it!!

ClanofLams

Should have been penalty and yellow card. Ref has had very poor game generally emphasised by that shocking call.

sligeach

Italy should feel very hard done by. And now the salt in the wound, Scotland get a try right at the death.

OldRio

Italy will break your heart. So so close.

mangobob

Cruel. So cruel.

sligeach

It ended up 26-14 to Scotland, but so easily could have been 19-21 to Italy.

amacca

I'd be raging if I was an Italian fan....ffs Scotland are either infringing or not...and fine he can't check it but that's where you need a rule change for something as crucial as that or something like a head coach has three challenges for iffy stuff like that

RAKM

Italy in strong pos at end of game and manage to lose by more. Played 5 lost 5 conceded 4 tries in each game.

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372841#Comment_120372841

Whereas constant abuse of refs on social media is exactly what the game needs.

Eoinbmw

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372876#Comment_120372876

Do better then!

FrancieBrady

Scotland deserved to be beaten but so did Italy at the end of the day. Mad game with some terrible rugby.

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372882#Comment_120372882

Wouldn't matter. The ref was absolutely fine today.

People don't want refs to make the correct decisions. They want the refs to make the decisions that bring about the result they want.

kksaints

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120372890#Comment_120372890

Don't see how you can call the ref fine today, got some key decisions wrong which had a big impact on the result. I think you've made a judgement earlier and are going to stick to it despite evidence to the contrary.

Water John

Only saw the first half. One ref problem I thought was, the pacing of his calls at scrum set up was too slow. It had no rhythm which a huddle of 16 players need.