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Professions, allegedly, where you can spoof your credentials

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Tonight, RTÉ investigates explores the phenomenon of bogus psychologists who, according to Adam Harris, can merely put up a brass plaque and declare self as a psychologist .

This is the current example under scrutiny. A very serious example. How many other bogus “professionals” are there out there? I can think of the phenomenon of Nutritionists.

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Hangdogroad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120333203#Comment_120333203

Its mind boggling that guy hasn't been made to step down. I wouldnt be surprised if he's left a few dead bodies in his wake.

Fathom

US House of Representatives (e.g., George Santos).

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326798#Comment_120326798

“So, Mr Leaves your hip replacement was going to be performed by a highly trained orthopaedic surgeon however we found this person who who has done ground breaking work in another field with limbs. Granted they are an arborist who works with grafting apple tree limbs however we are sure it will all work out. Now relax as the anaesthetic kicks in”

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120330321#Comment_120330321

Is that just a multiple twitter account maker upper?

niallpatrick

I had to delete my answer

sprucemoose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120323401#Comment_120323401

i find radio presenters bizarre these days, anyone new is either a retired sportsperson or a social-media 'comedian'

brokenbad

"Social media marketing" - apparently this was Jack Keating's job before Love Island.....

[Deleted User]

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326798#Comment_120326798

That would be fine if they weren't charging for the services they provide and the fact that they can cause great harm.

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120327204#Comment_120327204

A bit like the Pope having a marriage councillor.

Capt'n Midnight

Boris Johnson had an ethics advisor.

Who resigned.

And so did their replacement.

On second thoughts maybe they were overqualified.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326798#Comment_120326798

I'd say that if Mick O'Leary sold you a ticket to Standstead and when you were about to take off, the pilot announced that he wasn't a trained pilot at all and that this was his first flight but that had worked in a bicycle shop for a few years, you might head for the exit.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058287155/professions-allegedly-where-you-can-spoof-your-credentials

So long as you avoid the regulated professions plus any thing where people are recovering your fees via insurance, healthcare etc... you could probably get away with it if you are a good spoofer and have a good knowledge of the job in question.

Witcher

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120326798#Comment_120326798

It's just Ireland that requires people to be trained and competent to work in certain fields is it?

amdublin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324042#Comment_120324042

Dieticians are properly trained medical people who work in conjunction with doctors and hospitals. It's a proper medical qualification. I think you might be thinking of Nutritionists (e.g. Rosanna Davison)

growleaves

I'd add that the Irish obsession with credentialism borders on the comical.

The Wright brothers were bicycle mechanics, they didn't have Bachelor of Engineering degrees.

Many historic discoveries in scientific disciplines were made by people in adjacent fields, or occasionally by autodidacts, because they looked at the subject with a fresh pair of eyes and brought different assumptions to bear.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324998#Comment_120324998

I'm pretty sure you need academic qualifications to apply for a property auctioneers licence. Or alternatively a few years of verifiable experience.

brokenbad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325517#Comment_120325517

Check out the Donegal GAA thread

callaway92

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325397#Comment_120325397

Haven’t really followed the story - is there a cliffnotes link?

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325469#Comment_120325469

Well some young wan showing off pictures of her arse on instagram is a different matter. I was thinking of someone actually employed in a gym. Although I can't complain too much given that I made a fortune off the former route meself.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324019#Comment_120324019

I heard a rumour once that there was someone who was working in HR somewhere who wasn't an absolute thundering cunt.

Not sure whether it was one of those urban legend things though.

tastyt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325425#Comment_120325425

I agree and a good personal trainer is a huge help to people and worth the money

Problem is guys / girls doing a few weeks cert and promoting themselves on Insta etc as experienced professionals. Easy to fool people if they are young and attractive too

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325202#Comment_120325202

Not everyone knows how to exercise correctly. If you have been involved in sports teams etc. since you were small then you probably take the basics for granted. When I went abroad though I met people who had never really done any kind of organised sport or exercise until their mid-late 20's and they just didn't know where to start.

brokenbad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324998#Comment_120324998

Throw in Solicitors into the mix there also and you have a good old boys network going on......

brokenbad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324454#Comment_120324454

Just look at the shenanigans up in Donegal GAA Academy - apparently a not unreasonable question was asked regarding job description and was met with a mass resignation of Academy staff.....

apache

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324611#Comment_120324611

I haven't seen the programme yet, will catch it later but yeah therapy is a big one. It's a disgrace. People are coming at their most vulnerable. It's not regulated at all.

brokenbad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324571#Comment_120324571

Good point - the Celtic Tiger was the catalyst for a lot of cowboys and so called "handymen" to jump on the bandwagon.

I personally know a few individuals who never served their time in a trade and wouldn't know one end of a trowel or handsaw from the other - and yet were hired by contractors on large developments during that era.

No wonder there is such shoddy workmanship in housing estates built during the boom....

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120324998#Comment_120324998

auctioneers and estate agents require a licence to practice as such.

Nermal

Most of the non-trivial results of psychological research are not replicable: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis

Spoofed and 'real' credentials in psychology are of equivalent value.

kirk.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120325126#Comment_120325126

Its one of those mixed bag threads

Posters hating or answering the question or wondering what the question is

tastyt

Definitely personal trainers , some absolute spoofers out there