I wonder how this will work out for him
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Yes but they don't expect, as some here believe, that the bread/host is going to turn into human flesh right before there eyes! Anyway this is simply deflection, the Burkes are roaring (literally) evangelical protestants not Catholics.
Not according to the catholic church. the bread becomes the literal body of christ. now, the majority of catholics dont actually believe that but most catholics dont actually believe in a lot of the things the church holds to be true. and please dont no true scotsman an answer.
No Dan, to be a Catholic you gotta go all in on the body of christ bit. There's no middle ground, fudges or grey areas. The last time I checked Rome doesn't have a Catholic-lite subscription option. That's why non-Catholics aren't allowed get communion in a Catholic Church, but Catholics can get it in a Protestant Church.
Actually consubstantiation is not symbolic either. It's the belief that rather than the bread and wine literally entirely becoming the body and blood of Christ (albeit while retaining the outward appearance of bread and wine), that the bread and wine co-exist with the body and blood in the same objects. So it's literally both bread and flesh, wine and blood at the same time.
Memorialism is the doctrine that the bread and wine are merely symbolic.
Bakers and Vintners FTW. Literally they are bloody great bodies.
All this is giving me constipation.
I must say that I found the thumbnail for the video on independent.ie quite amusing. The mother appears to be giving a particular form of salute.
Obviously Burkes, no need to sue me. I'm only pointing out what it looks like. I am not saying that is what she intended.
The face on the father just says "why did i ever marry this one. i'd rather be in the pub"
He must have been enjoying himself at one stage.
They do have a load of kids
The video of her barking on about being a good christian is terrifying, and they all nod and agree like trained seals. How anyone can defend or be on their side at all is beyond me.
Religion is so weird.
Immaculate conception. ( just to deflect from the communion debate)
Immaculate concept refers to being born without "original sin" - people commonly misunderstand it to mean no actual jiggy-jiggy (to use the scientific term)
As Liam Gallagher used to say - "Mad fer it"
The oul' religion I mean of course
But wasn't the jiggy piggy the original sin? you know the snake and the apple and all that.
FFS
the media shouldn't be giving these looballs the oxygen of publicity... its all they are craving.
I have to say, Ammi (is that pronounced Amee or Ammy?) has lovely shiny hair. Wonder what shampoo she uses?
The Mammy seems to be happy as a pig in sh1te in the video clip above.
Lord forgive me but I do fancy nerdy looking women like Ammi. Note I said Ammi, not Mammy. 😁
The little fat Garda at the end of the video looked bollixed. 😁
Enoch looks like he just got 180
and the "Immaculate Conception" refers to the conception of Mary, not Jesus. Another common error. Most Catholics don't know the basic facts of their religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception
Are any of them married yet?
I'd say if you ever got the opportunity to call to the house and pick her up for a date you wouldn't want to have the Johnny's poking out of the top pocket!
Mod - Can we move on from the discussion about the tenets of various religions please, it's off topic and can be discussed elsewhere
Who knows how the school came to employ him when the NUIG troubles were all over the media and internet. But then Arthur Cox took on Ammi and you'd think they'd be well clued in. All the Burkes seem to have very high academic results. Enoch is reported to have been an excellent teacher Something very sad about it all.
I’ve heard you can tell a Wella woman anywhere- however I’ve no information at my disposal as to what characteristics a Wella woman has over non-Wella women so unfortunately I can’t either rule in or out this product in her hair, at this time.
Im now going to log off the internet and shoot * myself as this is a new low for me on contributions to this discussion 😀
*not to be taken literally thanks 😛
Sorry: mod warning just seen.
Burke wouldn't have a wealth of experience as a teacher given that he's relatively young and spent a considerable amount of his time in college but he's highly qualified and by all accounts an excellent teacher. He excelled academically, achieving first class honours in both his degrees. Not a simple feat. He has two bachelor's degrees and a masters in education. I read somewhere but can't find it now that Enoch Burke chose teaching ahead of medicine. If that's true, it would put him somewhere in the top 5% academically.
Enoch had no criminal record so what would a background check have revealed? I'm sure he passed Garda Vetting as all teachers have to. He can't be discriminated against based on the actions of his family.
I'd imagine there was at least one face to face interview. He must have passed that with flying colours seeing as they gave him the job.
Before all this hullabaloo he looked like a very employable teacher so I wouldn't be holding that against Wilson's Hospital School. Does he look like a very employable teacher now, no, not so much any more.
Just as an aside, some of the Burke's protests and court cases have done some good. For instance, Elijah Burke's High Court/Supreme Copurt case showed how it was illegal to exclude those who were home schooled from the predicted grades system initiated when COVID was around.
I think the same thing in the end. Okay, I've got a laugh out of them and the whole situation, have been aware of them and their antics for years - from around NUIG for starters - and a lot of their self serving hypocrisy, blatant lies and complete lack of tolerance for anyone or anything that doesn't rigidly conform to their beliefs would sicken you, but there is, ultimately, something tragic about it all.
They're all young people, obviously capable and academically gifted, but whatever peculiarities of their upbringing has resulted in them being incapable to function in a normal manner.
The way they carry on is obviously mad and when you see the way they parrot each others stock phrases when haranguing whoever comes into their orbit, it's hard not to feel a chill at the level of control and indoctrination that must have gone on for years to produce that across a whole family. It's kinda scary.
So, I do have sympathy for them at some level. Their lives have been essentially ruined.
It was mentioned by a couple of people earlier that mammy seemed to enjoy her outburst for the cameras while her family acted as her backing group.
She has encouraged her children every step of the way to becoming unemployable laughing stocks.
Is it a control thing? A way of keeping them close rather than fleeing the nest and possibly encountering some normality?
Yet it looks like he’s wasted all that education and made himself top of the not a hope of proper employment list.
I do wonder but ultimately don’t give a toss really, what he will end up doing. If he ends up not working a day in his life from now on he’ll have nobody but himself to blame although I’d say he’ll find someone to blame.
what a waste of time.
by all accounts an excellent teacher
According to whom though? I know he himself has told the courts that he's an excellent teacher. Regardless of his qualifications, I find it hard to believe that someone so dogmatic, self-righteous, and closed to other perspectives or opinions, could be a positive influence on young people.
I think some of you misread evangelists - it's par for the course for the community to agree vigorously when other members speak the truth of the lord. Just go along to some of the more progressive catholic or protestant churches now, where they have services for our new citizens. Lots of vigorous singing, praise be the lords and swaying, nodding. Nothing odd really about it, just the way of it.
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