The government are currently investigating increased parking, congestion charges and speed limit reductions in order to help the country meet its climate goals. Looks like a split in the coalition is emerging over the proposals, which are likely to be deeply unpopular. Do you see anything of the proposed that could be considered politically palatable?
The "no option to drive a car" is not really true. The convenient option is to drive a car.
I agree we should be investing now in public transport
Lol great little country
By all means fix our own country but don't do it by penalizing people who have no other option but to drive a car into Dublin as the houses for sale and rent are just non-existent in Dublin same goes with the public transport on offer. Also dont think we can just increase taxes we pay more then enough to have a first world public transport system. We had what 20Billion in corpo taxes last year 10 billion of that was unexpected. How much could be done with that with building infrastructure? Until our spend is brought into the lime light and a light shone on the waste that our elite political classes are spending nothing will change and of course there is no real punishment for any politician. They may get voted out but with an overly generous pension that us the mere mortals can come nowhere near affording.
no they don't, they have some paint markings that are packed with cars and taxis
I think it was this thread which earlier posted an image of a DB lane. Let just say other road users involved.
The majority of routes have sections whcih are shared with cars etc and it all comes to a hault
Yes.
What? Doesn’t DB have their own lanes etc in the city to make things smoother for them?
Fix our own country and then discuss global issues
In reality the majority of the rest of the World, including developing countries have a far superior public transport system to Ireland. So should we not look at fixing that? even if it is for our own benefit?
What has a DC got to do with travel in Ireland?
The biggest issue in bus, especially the likes of Dublin Bus is the inconvenience compared to a car. Then people say it is no quicker than a car because it is stuck in traffic with people in cars.
We can't make the streets bigger so remove the cars.
Putting more cars on the road while trying to improve public transport will not work. They are fighting for the same space.
I see another tiktok data center coming to Dublin. Greens silent. Charge the little man out of existence though!
And yet if we all walked and stopped driving it wont make a blind bit of difference to the CO2 emissions being emitted globally. What people from the green agenda are saying if you have to commute into Dublin using a car your going to pay a tax. I mean anyone coming into Dublin driving with the high costs that are now attached to driving a car are a very real disincentive to drive already. So only those who have no other choice would choose to do so.
Or could be financed by sustainable finance, green bonds etc.
Instead all that sustainable finance has really amounted to so far is the greenwashing of financial products.
As highlighted already there are plenty of improvements that can be made to the bus service that aren't traffic dependent.
Eh no it does not require more taxes. It requires some phucking cop on when spending the governments over the last decade and a half have p1ssed a fortune a way. Anglo?? benchmarking (twice) ?? The childrens hospital??? to name but a few. We pay more than enough to fund the above outlined by the poster you replied to. We have borrowed 230 billion(or so) we are taking in over 100billion in tax a year. At what point can we start looking at where this money goes. I mean for god sake we cant build enough houses to house our population or give the general public a half decent health care system. So I take Umbridge with this crap of more taxes. We pay tax on almost every aspect of life from eating to sleeping to just about everything else. The likes of you wont be happy till we are taxed per breathe taken. By all means if you want to pay more for the black hole that seems to swallow up the public purse go ahead I for one feel I pay more than enough and that I get very little in return in the way of decent public services for what I pay in to the system.
This charge/issue is a microcosm of the failures of government spending. People want behavior to change with regards to driving a car and without giving a real alternatives as there has not been enough money spent on the areas associated with public transport or housing which is the only way your going to get people out of the car and the likes of you want more tax from everyone to sort this when we are paying though the nose in tax and things like the money that could be saved in Eamo and the rest of our elite political class fecking off to HongKong and other areas of the globe for a jollies on paddies day should be cut and tell them to make a zoom call instead. So how about we try less spending areas that are not needed and more concentrated spending on the areas needed please and give the options for people to actually leave the car at home until the political class change their attitude on spending nothing will change.
But no one is saying everyone has to stop using cars.
Of course the big 4/5 countries (and all countries) have to take measures too, big measures. And while Ireland is small, our per capita emissions are high - higher in fact than one of those 'Big 5' (India).
it was ignored by FFFG for 100 years. same with our appalling environmental standards and plummeting biodiversity. people blame all these things on the greens now because they've had a smidgeon of power for 5 minutes.
Which requires .........more taxes
Buses are a cheap way to move large amounts of people around, the reason they are slow is because they are stuck in traffic with people in cars.
Yes but the 30-40 years previously when publci transport and cycling was totally ignored, is that the Green Party fault becuase that would seem to be the suggestion on this thread?
Maybe by making public transport more attractive. There are other ways to make public transport more attractive than taxing people onto buses.
Build the metro
Build the dart extensions
Build new luas lines
Well bring in the options for those outside the pale to commute in and then have the discussion. Until that happens all this is, is a tax on people working outside of Dublin who have to work there. Also if the political class could lead and start by doing zoom calls instead of jumping on airplanes for the paddys day jollies as there is no need for them to be physically there and then rid all car parking spaces for themselves that would leading and doing what I do instead of doing what I say. As some posters put it its up to the individual to make the change but those in charge feel the same rules for them dont apply to them as they are special.
We are at a rate of 446 cars per 1000 people back in 2020.(So when you take out those too old and too young too drive and those motor bikes a large % of the population drive) Now as I asked the other poster if you owned a car would you use it if you really did not need it when you factor in the price points of every aspect of motoring has shoot up through the roof.?? Also your stats are almost a decade out of date?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/452019/ireland-number-of-cars-per-thousand-inhabitants/#:~:text=Ireland%3A%20number%20of%20cars%20per%201%2C000%20inhabitants%201990%2D2020&text=The%20motorization%20rate%20in%20Ireland,one%20thousand%20inhabitants%20in%202020.
The reality is for a lot of people in Dublin they already have publci transport available but will not use it. How do you propose to get people to move onto public transport?
I didn't see you answering the question I riased in terms of who to blame in next government if the Green Party are gone?
The majority of the adult population drive regardless of going into Dublin or not. The majority of people commuting into Dublin do so as there is no viable alternatives for public transports or to live in a property in the county and most would be heading in as they work there. Behavior will only change when there is a viable alternatives, until then all it is an increased tax on people working in Dublin from outside.
We were at a rate of 446 passenger cars per 1000 inhabitants so when exclude those who are too young and too old to drive and those who commute via motor cycle. We have a lot of people who have a car. Now would you own and run a car taking into account the way motor tax, fuel prices, insurance prices etc have gone up and up and up - if you did not need to run the car? Those driving into the city center are doing so to work - why are you trying to penalise people trying to work.
Yes, thou must remember that it's YOU the individual who can make all the difference now... (just don't look at the Energy companies making Billions of dollars in profit a week... sschuusshhh look over there....!)
It's all part of the status quo for the whole country not just Dublin.
Are you certain that using a car is essential for the majority of the population?
Maybe in rural Ireland. In the cities people can get along just fine if public transport options are made stronger. And yes I accept we are a long way away from that as well, but it is possible
The majority of the population aren't driving cars into city centres every day though, are they?
Despite the abundance of evidence, it is surprising to see so many who think that they won't have to change their behaviours when it comes to climate change. "Don't look up!"
Smoking is not an essential as in you can go about your day to day work, rest and play without having to smoke the same cannot be said about using a car for the majority of the population.
What you say is true. However when we introduced the smoking ban in 2004 we were followed by almost every other country in the world. There's nothing to say that us reducing emissions won't result in a spread of the idea globally
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