The government are currently investigating increased parking, congestion charges and speed limit reductions in order to help the country meet its climate goals. Looks like a split in the coalition is emerging over the proposals, which are likely to be deeply unpopular. Do you see anything of the proposed that could be considered politically palatable?
I actually don't care anymore about emissions. The whole green charade is about fleecing ordinary workers and nothing else. And I know plenty of others who think the same. The greens are losing the dressing room rapidly and the next election will demonstrate that to it's utmost....
What are your own suggestions for how Ireland's emissions targets should be reached, and specifically how the transport sector's carbon reductions should be achieved?
I won't say anymore because unfortunately the content of this thread has already gone down the drain by a bunch of cyclists in their true fashion.
I drive. I cycle. I walk. I use public transport. So am I a cyclist or not?
Assuming you categorise me as a cyclist, note that AFAIK I did not mention anything about cycling in this thread until some against the government proposals raised it first.
You have to throw in sarcasm on top of everything else? If this man had logic he'd be dangerous. Fix the improvements before applying the tax its as simple as that.
I'm guessing that his logic is that rather than walk a few hundred metres, people would get the bus to go one stop which would invariably piss off people who are trying to travel a much longer distance.
Nobody is trying to stop people entering the city so I'm not sure where you got that notion.
As for PT improvements, there have been significant changes already over the last number of years with loads more due. PT has been neglected for decades and finally is being given proper attention. There still are issues but it is being transformed like never seen before.
Wht cant we get some of these dopes (greens) on the tv and riddle the dumbasses with these questions. Go through them for a shortcut and out the other side by a decent interviewer.
This thread had the potential to have good conversation in here.
I would've gave my two cents too as an ex Dublin bus driver and bus Éireann driver. Now living in a massive city without car tax, no congestion charges and cheap fuel, I can say first hand that the greens memo won't fix the issue.
Define irony?
56 minutes of walking and busses. That original post was supposed to say 56 mins of walking and two busses.
8 min walk to the 15 bus stop. Then get off the bus walk to the c5/c6 bus stop then get off and walk 11mins to the zoo.
vs
21 mins in a car door to door.
If they want people to stop entering the city where's the public transport that's needed before making these proposals? Lets be real here this is never going to happen but its a good way to piss people off.
56 minutes of walking? at the moment (which admittedly, is at 10:40pm), from the yellow house, google maps is showing a total of nine minutes of walking, to the zoo; the entire trip, walking sections included, are less than the 56 minutes you mention. granted, you don't live at the yellow house, but what route suggested two buses and a 56 minute walk?
ok.
Nah I’ve gone before when the parade was on. No problem if you go early enough.
Well, No.
only a small problem with your planned trip to the zoo.
The Parade.
Plus they have shut down a lot of the parking around the zoo. The zoo car park will be full at 9.30 if not before, and the park will also be full so best of luck getting parking.
It would be better on weekend like that if the park was totally shut down to traffic to make it safe for families to use the park/zoo etc.
Ooh great, a what-if guessing game.
So hypothetically speaking if a green minister was to threaten to pull out of a coalition government and collapse said government- if a certain tax wasn’t introduced or increased- because that minister wouldn’t be finance minister, the greens wouldn’t have caused the tax to come in or increase.
It would be the finance minister who brought it in- correct?
Do you really think our emissions targets came from the Greens?
I wasnt in the cabinet meetings so maybe you tell me!
It was something being introduced in most progressive countries at the time so we've No way of pointing it at the Greens only. I'd say Revenue were thr most vocal for it in which case it was the Minister for Finance (Brian Lenihan) that pushed it.
Did the greens push for it by any chance?
Well they haven’t reduced the tax burden either.
Did they say they would?
Who introduced carbon taxes?
I think it was in the Finance Act 2010 introduced by a government comprised of Fianna Fail, the PDs, the Greens and some independents. Again, the Greens didn't hold a finance portfolio.
Why? I never said that they did anything with taxes. However, posters have made the claim that the Greens love taxing the poor or how introducing taxes is a favourite pastime of the greens which is clearly untrue!
What taxes have the Green Party got rid of?
So I’m planning on going to dublin zoo on at Patrick’s day with the wife and three kids (youngest is 11 months so buggy etc).
Option A is a 21 min drive from Rathfarnham direction which would cost approx €1 in diesel and let’s say insurance servicing etc adds up to another €3 per day- so €4 to get from the house to the zoo (no paid parking in the zoo) in complete comfort and leaving at a time we choose and all lunches, buggy, changing bag other stuff for the kids in the boot.
Option B is a 56 min walk and two busses to get to the zoo while lugging around bags, folding and unfolding a buggy twice, hoping the bus turns up, hoping the bus has room for us, keeping an eye on three kids on PT, paying for two adults and two kids (baby would be free I’d imagine?) which would cost €8 each way I think?
Then repeating all that on the way home when everyone’s tired from walking around the zoo all day and we’ve a wrecked tired 11 month old screaming the bus down.
Yeah…….think I’ll go with option A!
To use their car?🤨
What faux outrage? You were asked some questions back.
This would be under Section 6 of the Finance Act 2019 so which was enacted well before June 27th 2020 when Ryan and the Greens became part of the current government?
C'mon, try harder! If introducing new taxes is a "favourite pastime" of the Greens, then it should be easy!
I'd also remind you that since entering government, the Greens have not held a finance role which would make it harder to introduce new taxes!
"Do you want the State to provide their coffee and lunch and wipe their arses for them too?"
Isn't this the case in many government buildings and departments around the country?
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