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My Circumcision Story

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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    You can get a 1% hydrocortisone over the counter. A doc might prescribe a 2%, i'm not sure. But the 1% was fine.

    I haven't used the hydrocortisone in years and i can still pull the foreskin back when fully erect. When i started, i couldn't even pull the foreskin back when flaccid. But it is a slow process. Don't expect instant results, and don't try to push it too quickly, as you will end up with a tear which will actually make it tighter.

    But why not give it a try? Get the cream, try it for a week or two (remember small amounts, wash your hands afterwards) and stretch it several times/day. See if you start to notice a change. If so, that might tell you that it is something that could work for you, and you can keep going.

    You will need to cycle off the hydrocortisone for a few weeks (otherwise it thins the skin too much), but keep stretching during that time. A bit of vaseline or something similar really helps with the stretching.



  • Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Heart Break Kid


    So I figured I'd share my own experience in the hope that helps other randomers. I generally I think people should be more open about health topics, particularly men.

    Ive been to a few GPs who kept recommending the thinning cream I didn't but I didn't find it very effective or practical. Even my new current gp said I'd just be recommended getting the cream and even suggested that's all the consultant would suggest.

    Decided to push on with it and go private, I was tired of sex just being awkward and it was getting difficult to do simple things like keep myself clean.

    Consultant took all of 10 minutes and recommended a full circumscion even after I mentioned a partial one (to help with sensitivity) . I was all on board as I was just happy to have a permanent fix.

    Procedure:

    Was done as a day case and privately, I had VHI and they covered everything, I got some exception for the excess charge which would've been €100. I would've paid to do it privately as the waiting list to do it public is at least 2 years.

    Was brought to the ward, threw on the but-less dress, compression socks and underwear. It wasn't pretty. Did an ECG to check if my heart was ok due to previous potential issue but nothing found.

    Lot of waiting, few people on the ward doing ops with the same doctor.

    Eventually called to the operating theatre, signed a document and was put to sleep. Took maybe 15 mins for everything to kick in. Nurses and doctors were chatty but I think they were just checking if I was awake.

    Surgery took maybe an hour or less but no grogginess experienced when waking up. Woke up in the recovery room and brought to the ward after they felt I was more stable.

    Got served toast and it was the only thing I ate till I was discharged at around 4. I think I was held in longer because of low blood pressure but I think I've naturally low blood pressure anyway. I must if had 8 nurses at least, look at and poke my penis but obviously they were all professional.

    Prescribed a bunch of medium duty pain-killers and some bandage's.

    Just don't think about sex, I did and it was so awkward and way too early on Day 0.


    Bit of a long uncontrolled post but will try update as I go.



  • Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Heart Break Kid


    Day 1

    Honestly not a huge amount happened during day 1. Woke up, showered, I thought the bandage would just peel off but it kind of stayed on, decided to leave it on and dry it with a hairdryer and made sure it was dry completely through. Not used to pain killers and definately felt very light headed. Everything felt very sensitive and awkward to move. Some stinging sensations but drugs seem to keep most of the pain away.


    Day 2:

    Showered and decided to remove the bandage. Looked very angry and a tad bit swollen. Tried to clean it as much as I could, obviously still very sensitive. Painkillers still feel very strong but also dont seem to agree with my stomach. The extra bandages were a bit awkward to put on but did my best. I'd probably suggest before levaing to ask the nurse to show how on your finger or something as the explanation I was given wasn't great. Going to the toilet is a bit awkward, just a tad less control.


    Got a letter to come in for a dressing appointment, im assuming for bandages like for next month? Can anyone tell me if youd still have bandages on after 4 weeks?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,719 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Stopped having the bandages on after day 5 which was actually yesterday. Doctor didn't really say much about how long to let them on but recommended using vitamin e oil for five days and then give it time to breath. Issue now on day 6 is the head is starting to become a bit rough from rubbing on my boxers.

    Other than that everything seems fine. Went to my own doctor yesterday just to have him look at it. Have anxiety at the best of times so for piece of mind just wanted him to look and he seemed very happy with it and even said it's one of the better circumcisions he's seen. Whether he was just saying that or not it helped ease my mind anyway 😂

    Still very swollen, especially around the base which makes peeing a bit awkward. No real issues with night time erections waking me up. My sleep ain't great in general so just go in and try pee when I wake during the night.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 bedridden123


    Well I've read through each page of this thread twice or three times in preparation for the op and finally got it done on Thursday, so this is day 4!

    In terms of pain, it's really not that bad. I took that bandage off after 48 hours and have been leaving it out all day to get fresh air and wrapping it in a huge amount of vaseline/antibiotics & gauze during the night. The erections during the night haven't been too bad and I've managed to suppress them.

    The main issue I'm having is with the sensitivity. I'm so scared of touching the glans or going near it with anything. I can't stand the feeling of something rubbing off it, I'd rather have pain than this sensation. Right now I'm not even leaving my room, just so I can keep it in the open air and hopefully lose the hypersensitivity quicker.

    Was just wondering when this died down for ye? Oh what I'd give to fast forward 2/3 weeks!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,719 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Will be five weeks this coming Thursday and the sensitivity still bothers me big time. Have to wear briefs or went down a size in boxer briefs because my normal underwear are still unbearable to wear.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 bedridden123


    Wow that is really scary to hear. Was hoping it would not bother me/I wouldn't notice it by day 10 or so. Has it improved much at all?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,719 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Honestly I'd say it has with the change in underwear but still watching how I move in certain situations because the sensitivity is high. Wore loose underwear on day five when I stopped wearing the bandage and was fine but on day six couldn't move wearing loose underwear without it bothering me big time. Tried it again last week and on the second day felt fine till that night.

    Might also be the cotton material that's used for those boxer briefs as bought a pair in the same size but polyester and they feel much better. Can go about my days fine but still get the sensitivity issue in certain situations that mostly involve bending. No issue whatsoever with walking around.

    But tighter underwear has helped massively in being able to go about doing things without it bothering me too much. Saturday just gone helped my brother clear out a back garden that was like a jungle and full of rubbish while wearing the cotton boxer briefs a size down than I'd normally wear and it didn't bother me much.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 AussieRam


    So I posted on here about four years ago, my foreskin wasn't tight but I had balanitis on and off and used diff steroid creams long story short , had bad reaction to one of creams and the skin became rather limp or lost its elasticity, this resulted in a damp feeling at times especially after use of bathroom . I had two consultations back then but never fancied going through with it.

    One of the consultants said I didn't need a circ at the time.

    So four years later i still felt moist at times ,miserable some times but i think i let these days get the better of me. I finally decided yeah il go for it without thinking of the reasons i didn't want it. Anyways went to the consultant and he actually changed his mind and said I didn't need one , since my problem was a feeling rather than a medical issue I felt like he wasn't understanding my problem. So we decided to go ahead with it

    But boy i regret it now , I'm five weeks in but I'm mad at myself i went ahead with it, I should of took the advice of the consultant and left well enough alone and talked it thought at home.

    The circ isn't what I thought it would be , there is a lot of loose shaft skin and bundling when flaccid , there doesn't seem to be any smooth transition to the rim or head , just thick shaft skin right up to rim hugging it and it isn't knitted in right and there is a little gap where you can see underneath.

    It doesn't feel slim and I would just like to pull the skin taut but that's not possible

    Also can feel hard bump at front aswell i think this is a stitch underneath.

    Was back at the consultant and he says it's still in the healing phase and that all will take shape after three months and not to panic.

    I even asked him about a revision but he said he never ever did it and to give it time and that any further surgery would make it worse and that i need extra skin for an erection.

    In a way it feels i have more skin than ever , as before it was all sitting smooth now it's as if the skin is rolled back and sitting or stuck in an unnatural way.

    Did anyone on here get a revision or recommend a urologist to get a second opinion?



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    It is not unusual to panic a bit after a major decision, especially when the immediate results are not what you expected. It might be worth reflecting on your thought processes on this. It seems that you made the decision based on strong feelings and maybe left your logical mind out of the decision making process. Now you have very strong feelings of regret about the decision. But is this equally based on feelings and leaving logic outside the door? As your doctor said, immediately after an operation is not a time to take a decision on the success of the operation. Look at the reports of people on this thread. It can take weeks and months to get to a stable state where everything is functioning as it should. Try to reassure yourself that it was not a terrible decision you took. Millions of people all over the world are circumcised and their penis functions perfectly well.

    You were unhappy with things before the operation and you are unhappy now. Consider if there is something behind this unhappiness. It might be worth seeing a counsellor to talk through your strong feelings on this. Either way, be patient, follow best advice regarding post-operation care and give yourself time to get used to the new form of your penis before making any rash decisions.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28 AussieRam


    Thanks for the advice Trondheim, food for thought there.

    Thinking back I had a closed mind going into the consultation, I was going on his advice from four years ago and I had decided that i was finally getting it done and should of waited a few weeks to digest the fresh opinions of the consultant rather than booking it there and then. The consultant even said I mightn like it I don't know why I ignored his advice.

    At one stage I thought the consultant wouldnt give me the option to do it and when that was a possibility It made me want it more.

    After that I just went along with it, I had a busy few weeks and didn't think it through i was looking for reasons to get it done i.e if I had discomfort at all it was justification, I should of thought logically as you said and I remember even saying well Oh I can't really cancel now as hospital is booked which is crazy talk.

    I seen advice online on UK surgeon website saying not to make up your mind for three weeks after a consultation which is solid advice.

    Due for six week review next week so will see how it goes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    Best of luck with the review. I would suggest not doing anything regarding reversal for at least 6 months. Be mindful of the lessons you have described above (having a set view and not listening to contradictory advice from doctor; reacting to being told "no" by absolutely wanting what you have been refused; striving to have something "fixed" even though it isn't really broken). All of these lessons apply just as much to a reversal as they do to the original circumcision.

    Also, try not to beat yourself up over what you currently view as a bad decision. You made the decision for good reasons and you cannot know in advance the outcome of your decisions. Be kind to yourself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 AussieRam


    Thanks, my surgeon said the same, to give it time and be patient, he said if i keep looking at it i will drive myself and everyone crazy.

    I must admit though Im trying to but i cant see it changing radically, its rather upsetting and its all I can think about tbh, it doesn't look like a normal circ at all. I tried to make life even better by going ahead with it and taking out an inconvenience (limp foreskin ), a problem i would love now!

    Im beginning to think the problem is he just left the shaft skin (towards the body) and glued it to near the corona and didnt leave any blending in or transition or thinner skin or inner skin if you like, its as if all remains is the thick shaft skin and it really doesn't feel natural at all.

    Not good but Il see what he says on monday.



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    Do you have something in mind as the perfect penis? I don't think there is any such thing. Each one is different.

    Do you have a partner? What does she/he think of it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 AussieRam


    Well not perfect but I expected it be feel normal and and not a change of shape as such. No I don't have a partner..

    I had the six week review and the consultant said it's healing and a bit more healing to go. He mentioned i have fibrosis skin which might make it feel thicker and take longer to heal.

    But the more i look at it the more i feel it's just a bad circ.

    Instead of going to him for a three months review he suggested going to someone else for a 2nd opinion seeing as I was unhappy.

    So he referred me to a specialist , an andrologist so will see him in June for the review and his opinion.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    It is good that you are going to a different specialist. That should give you confidence in whatever he says (including if he says that it is a good circumcision). In the meantime, try to focus on other things and think less about the circumcision. You know now that it will be addressed in June.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 AussieRam


    I wish I could, but i honestly don't think I can wait that long.

    After some thinking I think i may have a buried penis, where the penis retracts into the remaining skin and scrotum skin at times when I'm sitting down, it drives me crazy. I'm in good shape and thin by the way and not over weight.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    Is there any part of you that is curious about all this worry?

    I have been there also: incredibly worried about something, panicking, wanting to take action straight away to 'fix' the thing, and generally not making very wise decisions.

    What is driving this urgency? Why can you not wait until June? What is the worst thing that could happen if you did have to wait until June?

    Going from my own experience, i know that it was deeper issues causing that panic, that fear, that obsession. I really benefitted from seeing a counsellor to talk through these feelings. Maybe that would benefit you too.

    Do you have other things in your life that you can bring some attention to? Friends, exercise, hobbies, study, a job? Everybody benefits from a balance of things to occupy our minds. Too much focus on one part of our lives is rarely healthy in the long run.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭RetroEncabulator


    If you're worried about it, a second opinion is important but also remember that any surgery takes a considerable time to fully heal and settle.

    I wouldn't panic too much about it, but if you're concerned get some extra info, which you seem to be doing anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 AussieRam


    Thanks for the advice

    The feel of urgency is from the discomfort, the constant feeling of not being able to do anything with it tbh, not being able to hold it right ,the feel of it ,the shock of how it looks and all the stress building up'. I seen my GP and he said to not see the specialist until the 3 month review as some healing to go yet ,so Il do that. He told me not to think about it aswell.

    I do have a job, etc I was on a tough fitness regime before this op, but the way it irritates me Im not in the mood for doing anything much because its like a constant annoyance the way it feels.

    Regardless of the healing, I really dont like the style of the circ, its not like anything i expected, but thats for the specialist i guess.

    The whole thing that it is so permanent is also hard to fathom, ive been thinking through why I let it get this far, made one rash decision a few months ago, sent an email to the urologist and boom had an appointment with a set mindset without thinking about what I would be like afterwards.

    I guess I thought I backed myself into a corner when agreeing to it and then I just thought well il go along with it. That and the fact the procedure was took place just three weeks after the consultation didn't help.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    The really good thing about your response is that you are reaching out for support from different sources: here, GP, specialist, second opinion. I hope that is helping with the stress. It is certainly better than trying to handle it all on your own. Take care.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28 AussieRam


    So three months post op here now.

    Wish I could say things have got better but sadly it hasn't.

    I'm still very unhappy, I was at a specialist for a second opinion , he said it's early days and said it looked like a standard circ but said that only i know how it was , but he did say that I have scrotal webbing

    I figured this out myself too, bascially too much skin was taken off and my scrotum was pulled forward, it's a nightmare and it's very uncomfortable all the time. Bascially it's all balls and no penis body as such.

    There is zero inner foreskin left , just all outer skin that used to sit at the base of my penis now it's attached to the top.

    My scrotum used to sit naturally (obviously) now it's sitting higher on the shaft and smothering me when it's flaccid and when it's erect it's more than half ways up

    This isnt practical, how are you supposed to use a condom etc?

    I dont understand how this could happen, surely it would of been easy to recognise before performing it to see if there was a risk of webbing.

    The specialist said any reconstruction would be huge and results don't be great , but to check back with him in a few months and to use bio oil on the skin.

    On top of this I have been getting pains, UTI infection last month and now i have it again. Ironically the pro circ camp say that you won't get UTIs. Now I'm getting them all the time.

    I don't know why I'm getting these infections.

    To anyone considering getting a circumcision

    There's some advice on here saying don't hesitate just get it done etc, it's good it worked out for them, but remember once its done it's done. My advice is don't let anyone near down there, the risks outweigh any benefit

    Dr Google can be a dangerous thing. You even have a picture of how you think it would look, ,that it might be glamorous but bare in mind lot of what you see on the internet may have been done from birth. I even messaged someone on here who went to the same surgeon before the op who had a great result. I'm not sure has there been anyone else on here who unhappy with their circ?

    For me it has been life changing and I'm miserable.I was the fittest person before this never missed a workout , lifted weights , played sports . My quality of life is zero at the moment. I thought i had a problem before this but it was nothing compared to this.

    At the moment I'm too uncomfortable to do anything and don't have any motivation.

    What was meant to be a six week recovery for me is looking like a life sentence.

    I thought i was getting a bit of skin off the top , not my scrotum rearranged and pulled up.

    The foreskin itself is a huge miss, i miss the protection it had, the pleasure etc. Don't get me started on trying to 'use it ' without it.

    To be fair to the surgeon, he did advise me not to get it done and said i might not like it. I rushed into it in the end and before i knew it was all over with .

    As far as I can see the operation is a barbaric act , it involves guesswork, how can they remove skin when it's flaccid not knowing how it will be when you are erect? It's disfiguring.

    I wonder how often does this happen, how many more suffer in silence? problem is I signed consent form which had all these things listed as a risk and stupidly I never asked what all the risks meant.

    It was all put on a screen in front of me and i had to sign there and then, at least i thought i did , almost like signing for a package.

    In my opinion these should be printed and given to you, there's something insignificant about reading from a screen and signing. If i had it in front of me and took it home to discuss things maybe different. Then again there's a lot of things i would have done differently.

    I got a copy of it since and can't believe i signed it with all the risks that we're on it.

    I wish I followed my own advise on this thread from a few years back about asking questions to a consultant.

    Definitely don't make up your mind on the day.

    I'm not sure where i go from here , il see the specialist again , but as the specialist said I cant undo what was done , i just have to optimise what i have. The thought of any further surgery is terrifying but living like this is also miserable.

    All these doctor visits and consultant fees add up too money wise,

    Sorry for the long read and rant but this is my story. If anyone has experienced similar issues then would be good to know how you are dealing with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I had it done and very early days I thought I made a mistake but within a few weeks I was happy. Hard to visualise some of the effects you're mentioning.

    I did read about depression and even a suicide post circumcision with people that felt like they had someone else's penis and not their own so until your disappointment and frustration hopefully subsides, address the mental side of what you're experiencing with a professional, you don't sound in a great place at all



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    I agree with @Buddy Bubs. The physical is one side of things, but it sounds like you are already depressed and maybe heading into a deep depression.

    I would strongly recommend that you link in with a counsellor or psychologist.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I’m finding it really hard to finish during sex if I use a condom.

    is that a thing or just me?



  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭Trondheim


    Respectfully, i think that question belongs in a different thread.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Sorry I should have added that’s a post circumcision thing I notice



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,319 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Had it done a week ago and is taking its time healing up. I'm 52 so that's not helping but would have hoped to be further along a week afterwards. For those who have had it done how long was it roughy before the wound initially healed up for you?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,319 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Just for any oldies here, took two more weeks so three in total. Weirdly near the end of week two i could kind of pull most of the stitches out, weird sensation. There still two left one month later (since oper) where the frenulum used to be that are still solidly there, suspect they will need to be manually snipped at the 8 week visit with my consultant.

    Still very sensitive walking around, not quite sore, but not comfortable either which is annoying as I'd hoped to be able to do some light jogging by now, nowhere near that. I'm going to try an exercise bike tomorrow instead.

    Have to say i'm glad I'm married, my penis isn't going to win any beauty contests after this, that would have bothered me big time if I was younger. The cut around the glans is bumpy and not straight, and where the frenulum was is now a bulge at the back of the glans.

    Best of luck to anyone else going though this, its not the worst thing, its not a cake walk either, but for some of us it needs doing, so be it.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Irishguy10


    Just wondering if everyone who got it done is left with these bumps?


    Did anyone request a certain style?



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