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I've come round to thinking we should go flat out for the league and play a second string v Roscommon.
The Connacht championship runs from April 9th until May 7th and then you're out in the group stage May 20th.
Mayo would be better off losing to the Rossies, having a six week break before the championship. It would mean a tougher group but worst case scenario we have to play a preliminary quarter with a week's break after
Nice to get the win but plenty to work on. I thought DOC and Carney were very good. Carr got 3 nice points but missed 2-3 others.
The goals and the way Roscommon were able to come back from 8 down without really playing great was worrying though - maybe better to learn these things now rather than later in the year. I thought it was odd that AOS spent so much time around the middle when he came on rather than going in to FF, not sure it worked that well although he caught one great kickout.
Hard to see us not making the final from here, even if we were to lose the last two, chances are that we'd make it. I presume McStay will continue giving gametime to some of the younger & returning players - wouldn't mind seeing Conor McStay get a start. Galway & Roscommon will be fairly happy too, although they both probably need another point to be safe
Have been saying for a while that Ruane is too sloppy. He will often bring the ball directly into traffic, resulting in a turnover or a free. Now having said that, he got a crucial score at a crucial moment yesterday, but I'd be concerned about his general play in possession come summer tbh.
I thought Conroy looked quick and sharp enough for a player who has had a long lay off.
Yesterday's game settles the hennelly Byrne debate for me. For both goals, iv never seen a goalie make himself so small. He's the same age as hennelly so, imo no point in leading him down the garden path any further.
Disappointed ins Aos contribution when he came on. Didn't really play the role of a forward. That being said he was nailed on for a point and the ref gave a free out for double hop. A bizarre call from what I could see.
I can see why folk might be annoyed with how we coughed up a lead again and nearly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. It's something that we have to improve on with closing games out. Better to find out that we still have that issue now than later in the year.
We made a number of unforced errors yesterday which was a worry, but in the same vein that gives us something to work on.
I personally thought Ruane had his best game so far this year yesterday but I was reliant on the telly as I couldn't make the game yesterday so it may have looked different live.
I think that in Division 1 there have only been 3 away wins so far this year from the 20 games played - ourselves vs Roscommon, Roscommon vs Galway, Armagh vs Monaghan.
It's an interesting take.
I'd tend to agree to a certain extent but on the other hand winning something like a Connacht championship would be good for the young players.
On the worse seeding thing, three of the second seeds are going to be a Leinster team unlikely to be called Dublin, a Munster team not called Kerry and Sligo\Leitrim or London.
Can't see why Mayo would not finish 2nd with the likes of them in a group.
Finishing 2nd or 3rd in the group doesn't really matter as both go into the prelim quarter finals.
That's true, I forgot about that.
AOS seemed to be deliberately kept away from the forward role he has been playing up to now...a bit of shadowboxing there, I thought.
We've had enough goalkeeper debates on here to do us a lifetime, we don't need a new one. Was there ever really a Hennelly Byrne debate?
I actually thought the same about Byrne but didn't really want to get into it.
2nd gets home advantage i believe
Seen the full incident on TV. Matthew Ruane reaction said it all. He jumped straight to his feet without any complaint. A stamp on his leg would be totally different story.
Looked bad from that angle but I'd say he got more ball than leg... And Matty was nothing if not looking for it tbh.
ah there's no doubt Matty was acting the maggot. That said some players react differently. I mean look at how Sean Kelly reacts to what can only be described as the most painful Purple Nurple ever applied to a grown man in the history of Purple Nurples.
There is a pretty clear picture from the stand side showing O'Shea got tripped for that penalty.
Disgraceful carry on from Galway.. Keep at that and they won't win Sam for 75 yrs.. Or more...
Seeing that, we should really try Aido at FF more often.
Winning is a habit. We are unbeaten so far this year. Got to keep the momentum going Playing Galway in Connacht is one of the highlights of the year. And that game be better experience for mcbrein , coyne carr Conroy than a years worth of training
Playing them in a league final wouldn't be bad experience either!
Probably the same kind of trip that O'Laoi got black carded for last year when Cillian decided to fall into him...........
There sure is. Of course that didn’t get the same level of notice from the trolls
https://twitter.com/inphojames/status/752245287327072256?s=46&t=ykVB3m4Gr-33Rm_rENBb4A
That prompted me to check the odds for the league. My flutter is mainly confined to the grand national these days so I might be missing a trick but I was surprised that it took so long to find odds for the league.
None of the Irish ones seem to have odds. William Hill have us 4/5 on followed by Rossies and Galway. But Kerry 10/1 and Tyrone 50/1 are huge odds for outright winners.
Kerry especially imo, Galway and Roscommon up next for them, if they start to find some form, they could easily find themselves in the final by accident. Yera.
Those final spot(s) is fairly wide open I would have thought.
*Threw himself to the floor because he was tripped, not because someone tickled his tummy.
Wasn’t referring to you as a troll but if you look at the photos you can see it was a trip. Again those photos didn’t make it to the Sunday game commentary at the time and they were ignored, even though they show the trip clearly. That was the point I was making. It was a different angle which Marty Morrissey didn’t have on his iPad to show the Fermanagh manager after the game, and that particular incident has been bandied about as a dive when it clearly wasn’t.
I’ll admit my purple nurple reference was perhaps a little inflammatory. And for what it’s worth I don’t care for the feigning of injury to get players sent off from any players, and that includes mayo players.
its something that’s rarely punished - I’ve only seen someone getting penalised for it once, a Kildare player in the league game last year in Pairc Seán getting a yellow for acting injured. The ref even dismissed the medical team running onto the pitch and gave the lad a yellow card, can’t recall which Kildare player it was.
Refs do certainly need more assistance when it comes to the appropriate decisions but by the same token need to start penalising players that are acting the maggot. That includes lying on the ball to slow down play as well.
He threw himself, the arms were up, but it was fairly clear the was minimal contact. And it doesn't take much to put someone of balance when running. Plenty an ankle tap has taken down a big man.
But whether people want to think he dived, went down easy, was tripped etc... it really isn't the same as Kelly dropping and faking an injury in my book.
It's something that is a problem in the game now. I wouldn't be getting too righteous about it myself, as it could be one of ours acting the maggot next week.
The GAA really need to get some video evidence and start handing out bans.
Another thing they really need to address is lads falling into "high tackles". Lads seeing a raised arm and pretty much initiating the contact. Very hard for a ref to spot it though and video evidence mightn't be conclusive either.
To be fair to AOS, that is not part of his game. The Fermanagh incident got plenty debate before, but there is pictures out there that show contact! I don't think anyone in their right mind could argue against Cillian acting the maggot in that clip, he did the same thing to Tom Flynn in Pearse stadium a few years back if i remember correctly. Darran O'Sullivan in the replay in 2017 if i remember correctly too??The list goes on! Definitely in the same bucket as Sean Kelly's effort at the weekend.
I disagree on the clip with Cillian in it - as a forward, it's common practice to run across the path of a chasing back; literally every single forward in the history of the game has done it at some point
The loser of the Mayo v Roscommon Quarter final will be 3rd seed in the group and in a group with a provincial winner Dublin, Kerry, Ulster champions and will play them away in round 1.
If you don't win the group its prem round played a week before the All-Ireland Quarter and the opposition will be rested.
Long story short this new format is set up best for the provincial winner to win their group and All-Ireland quarter final match.
I'd definitely agree with you on the punishment! They have to start clamping down more on that type of behaviour!
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