80% of the public support on-shore wind farms apparently
Survey source: a windfarm business
Live in the south and have some of the oldest wind turbines in Ireland, built in the 1990s. TMK none have been replaced, still working.
So, would you support a Nuclear Plant in your area?
I'd not like a windfarm on land near me as regards flicker, visual intrusion, noise and such. No problem at sea, in fact there's a large windfarm planned for off the coast from here. Nuclear, I think, would be better - though there's the possibility probability it'd turn into the Children's Hospital of nuclear power stations in this here banana republic.
? That's saying 100% yes & they're effective & a good clean source of energy.
Do I understand you right? You are against wind turbines near your home but you want a nuclear plant near your home
a quick google tells me "Yes, nuclear energy does create noise pollution. At power plants and generation and distribution plants, equipment, such as gas turbines, steam engines, large-scale furnaces, turbines, compressors, mixers, and transformers are standard. These methods can surpass regulatory noise limitations due to their size and power."
funny how they're all in favour of having these beside them but not some woke windmills whishing away in the wind
An averge nuclear plant covering 200 acres will produce the same power as 250K acres of wind turbines(which of course only reach full output under specific wind conditions). So the noise issue with a conventional plant is hardly comparable with the mass energy sprawl of wind energy🙄
Noise is not the only issue with nuclear is it now?
Maybe at some stage people might stop filling these threads with nonsense about nuclear. Simple fact is Ireland will never have a nuclear plant.
Even a small leak would leave huge parts of Ireland unliveable because we are such a small island so that alone would rule it out before any of the other major issues would be reviewed.
Don't know how the development of thorium salt reactors is going. That or similar would be the only nuclear plant type that would suit Ireland. It would slot in nicely with wind and solar. It can be ramped up and down.
Not to mention the idea of giving control of nuclear materials to the political wing of the IRA. I'm sure that would cause some resistance
Scraping the barrel now looking for excuses!!
Just stating that 'it's a simple fact that Ireland will never have nuclear' - doesn't necessarily make it so. It's a well worn gambit used by those who won't countenance change.
Not really, I laid out a long list of reasons why it won't happen. I simply added another one to the long list. Might add more as they come to me
Ah, the boards.ie lurgy strikes. I didn't make the argument you're shoehorning into my post.
Prevailing winds suggest my location is not ideal for a nuclear plant on this island.
It's not about suitability, its about whether you would support it. Going by your previous post you wouldn't support wind turbines near your home but would support a nuclear facility.
Or are you saying that you support nuclear so long as its not near your home?
Again, you shoehorn.
I live where I live, should an accident happen at a nuclear plant and release radioactivity into the air my location on most normal days of the year would only serve to spread it across the island. You're attempting to box me into hypothetical nonsense, or in laymans terms wasting everyones time.
As a source of energy at current levels of technology I would support nuclear as the best option for Ireland.
This Nuclear stuff is standard whatabouttery.
Even Lord Greta, the apple in the eyes of the green alarmists is protesting against windfarms:
Referring to the windfarm proposed on "indigenous" lands in Norway:
"That can't happen at the expense of some people". - Greta
What is this "expense" she's referring to? I thought windfarms are a symbol of human's plight to save the planet!
My brain is twirling with the mixed messaging.
It doesn't take much research to identify what the "expense" is, and it is incredibly specific to that site. I'm not going to speak for Greta, but that protest was against a specific windfarm, not all windfarms.
I have completed my research. Here is the reason:
“Reindeer are very shy, and a bit wild, too,” Sámi herder Leif Arne Jåma, one of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit, told Earth Island Journal in 2021. “The animals steer clear of the turbines because they are disturbed by their view and noise. On top of that, in the coldest months large chunks of icy snow can be thrown into the distance as the blades turn. It is dangerous for humans and animals alike.”
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What a clown factory this green movement is.
Not shoehorning anything. Your logic is bizarre and I'm just trying to make sense of it. The more you clarify, the more bizarre your rationale becomes
So far it looks like you are against wind turbines near you but ok with nuclear but not near you and only if its downwind and only if its far enough away so that you don't have to suffer the consequences.
Given your comments about wind it sounds like your location would be ideal for wind turbines though
You do realise that a person can be in favor of wind farms and still object to a specific one for a specific reason.
I mentioned earlier that I'm in favor of windfarms. I also stated that I'm not in favor of destroying a natural habitat like a bog so they can be placed there.
You might be in favor of fossil fuels. Doesn't mean you want to have your local park demolished and have a coal plant put there.
Absolutely, which is why we'll never ever see a windfarm in sight of the coastal citizens of Dublin!!
I already provided pictures of the fallout if we had any sort of nuclear issue and to be fair as I posted at the time I limited the exposure. You are talking about making a huge section of Ireland uninhabitable.
Change is great and with the renewal technology now available we should be pushing forward with wind/solar/hydro/methane etc etc etc
Any of those technologies end up with a huge section of Ireland uninhabitable?
Also in regards to change, not too long ago we had someone propose to burn turf for electricity instead of wind. Make of that what you want
Some people seem obsessed with Dublin.
At the moment a large project is planned for Dublin. Dublin is 120km2. Ireland is just over 84,000km2.
Why the obsession with such a small part of Ireland? Should we only progress with projects if we stick them all into Dublin? or locate them in places to get the best value for money. Which in terms of wind I would expect if off the Atlantic coast
for the umpteenth time in this thread, a massive one is planned off the coast of South County Dublin, so you'll have your wish of the woke dublin elites having to look at windmills when they open their curtains. The horror of it all.
Are there not already turbines visible from Dalkey?
Anything that doesn't align with your thinking is bizarre to you, it's theatrics for the internet.
There's a 450mw offshore windfarm going in here, I've no problem with it.
You're purposefully being difficult about nuclear, attempting to play the fool which you do unconvincingly. The points I made were crystal clear.
Certainly from Brittas bay and heading back up Dublin direction so I would expect so
We started series production of reactors to breed plutonium in 1944 during the Manhattan project where money was no object "We've no copper, but here's 14,700 tons of silver, have fun" , PhD's were a dime a dozen, and driven by patriotism during WWII and the Cold War. Today's venture capital startup's aren't a patch on them.
The very similar thorium cycle was publicly announced in 1946. Except it needs way better neutron economy. Which means the physics are much harder.
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