The DUP refusing to let Sinn Fein have First Minister means a December Assembly Election. Will the numbers change in a fresh Election?
What parties seats are vulnerable or who might make gains in any constituencies ??
No chance. The Windsor agreement means that only the most ardent republican will ever want to give up the access to Uk & Europe by joining a United ireland. Can’t wait to see polls once this has settled down.
The Protocol was amended and renamed. We know why - to try and give the objectors a win they can trumpet about. Which is what they are doing.
Doesn't change the fact that the Protocol is still there nor the fact the Irish Sea border and EU rules are still there.
That is what the DUP have to accept and row back on if we are to then get Stormont back and running as the electorate want.
but you would cut the Nationalists adrift in East Derry, Antrim and North Down knowing full well that the leader of the DUP is a sectarian bigot?
Still at least the vast majority of Nationalists would be sorted and part of the Republic of Ireland , a bit like the initial 26 counties which sorted out most nationalists but not everyone.
Maybe we could house everyone from West Belfast in Newry or Dundalk !
I thought the obvious border would be East of the Bann.
One hundred years ago, this would have contained the majority of the Unionists, plus most of the heavy industry, but not enough to be viable as self supporting economic entity. The inclusion of Donegal would have tipped the balance of Nationalists into majority. Fermanagh and Tyrone should have been left out.
For fifty years, Westminster ignored them and let them do as they liked, until it exploded.
LBC James O'Brien has described Sunak as 'high on his own supply' as he tries to sell the deal.
As the day has gone on the gloss is wearing off already TBH
The 'Brake' is already probably dead in the water. Steve Aiken was on RTE defending it as 'not a Unionist veto'. Not good really.
So, are you now in favour of this DUP-under-the-bus-again minor tweak to the deal you were going to vote for the DUP to get rid of?
Baffling.
There was a 1994 "proposal" - which Sammy Wilson supported - for repartition
It included ethnic cleansing of the cut down NI. Catholics to be expelled, interned or nullified - murdered.
That's the kind of guy Sammy is, and that's the kind of party the DUP is for letting him in.
Sunak reiterated it in NI today when asked - the deal goes ahead with or without the DUP.
They have not gotten rid of the Protocol unless we all pretend that it is a new document/agreement, the Sea Border is still there and EU rules still apply.
Under the bus is exactly where the Tories have thrown them again.
i cannot stand Sammy wilson. It’s because of people like him that I don’t support the dup.
If that makes you feel good and soothes your sores, carry on. Whilst the jury is still out, the unionist people are pinching themselves and saying did we really achieve this
'Whilst the jury are still out'?
So you are celebrating something the jury is still out on?
Ok.
But you told us constantly that you were going to vote for them?
I told you that they would get my vote this time to enable stormont to stay down until protocol is sorted. I am not a dup voter and I was very very clear about that
Whilst the jury is still out...
Might that jury be the band of terrorists and drug dealers you previously referred to?
I am not a dup voter and I was very very clear about that
I am not a DUP voter but I would give them my vote! 🙄
Did anyone else find it deeply hilarious today when Sunak was going on about the fabulous position that N.Ireland was going to find itself in, with easy access to both the EU and UK markets. What, you mean like they had before Brexit ?😀. And if the Single Market is so fantastic, why were the UK so keen to get out of it ? Eh, Rishi ?
edit - see Nicola Sturgeon has copped on and pulled him up on it.
Yeah, not a DUP voter. Except when you are 😛
That's what I was wondering. Didn't they have access to both markets pre Brexit? The whole thing is a nonsense.
You really do take a very partisan view in things.
drug dealers influence have nothing to do with this anymore than how the Ira would influence you to vote.
as for this continual surprise from many that I might vote for a party that I disagree with on some significant issues. I have voted SDLP in the past and I am diametrically opposed to them on many fundamental issues. Often this was because I wanted to register my vote as an ‘anti republican sectarian violence’ vote , when the only two parties with any chance of election were sf and SDLP. Are you telling me I am a SDLP supporter?
I wasn’t a brexit supporter but are you guys just pretending not to get it or are yous just being mischievous?
Regarding the LCC, it was you who posted their thoughts on the Windsor Framework. Who in their right mind would pay heed to a bunch of terrorist criminals now?
As for the second, you said that you'd vote DUP so you would be a DUP supporter, like it or not!
Yes, in that election and the years it had effect, you were an SDLP supporter. It's bizarre you don't get this.
...and separating the 26 counties from the other 6. What's your assessment of how that worked out?
Moving Westies to Dundalk?
Now I know you're joking OR in favour of ethnic cleansing.
But Stormont being down is nothing to do with the protocol.
The protocol is sorted now but the DUP's secret 8th demand (no Taig first minister) has unfortunately not been resolved by the Windsor deal.
I think this, if true, has the potential to finally turn a lot of voters away from the DUP/TUV extremes. Moderate Unionism will not stand for this or the influence the LCC now has on their political direction. The dangers of being cap in hand with active service units is clear as is using your vote to encourage it.
At least one prominent journalist was cautioning that this attempted murder was not as clearcut as those who jumped to conclusions were saying.
While I agree with you to an extent, moderate Unionism has already turned away from the DUP/TUV. The only voters they have left are sectarian bigots and their vote share is declining.
Fundamentally disagree.
What has been happening is illustrated by contributions to this thread. The DUP are being lent votes by people who ordinarily would vote for the UUP.
What's going on here?
New IRA and loyalists are working together to target police?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Sunday World was saying recently that members of prominent Republican and Loyalists families have joined forces in dealing drugs. Could be related to that.
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